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EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by handle584 »

psychoslave wrote: post #90
handle584 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, Aliexpress is from Alibaba, who has been in the exporting business for many years. While Temu is from Pinduoduo, a competitor to Alibaba known for malicious business practices including exploiting an Android 0-day vulnerability [0]. [0]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/andro... Edit: I should add that Pinduoduo also ended up being fined over $200 million after a couple fist fight wi…

So, like Aliexpress is considered more ethical at this point? Asking as I heard Aliexpress’ ware could sometime be produced forced labors from prison in the underlying retailers. Not that prisoners situation seems particularly fine across all EU and USA either.

Like the other commenter said, all you can say is less evil. Basically everything from China is made by factory workers working 12 hour shifts with 1 day off every 14 days, or programmers working 12 hour a day with 1 day off every 7 days. So forced labors from prison is not that bad comparing to daily life there, just another one of these first world problems.

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Post by cubefox »

dgellow wrote: post #353
cubefox wrote: post #276

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Drugs are absolutely not victimless, except perhaps for caffeine.

The only victim to weed are people getting jailed for it. Same for shrooms

Weed isn't harmless. For example, it can probably lead to long-term brain damage. It is also toxic for the lungs, although less so than tobacco, which is usually consumed in greater quantities.

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Post by handle584 »

stdatomic wrote: post #322
dsign wrote: post #109

Say what you may of Temu, and I do think more vetting of certain goods is a good idea, but they fill a very real need. In the part of Europe where I live, the choice is only between intermediaries for the same products coming from China. The local intermediaries sell a very limited picking at staggering margins. And when it comes to certain things, like electronic components, the choice is between importing (old) Ame…

Really hits hard when you have to go to Home Depot to buy 6 spade connectors for $7.99 to use in a project with 3.3V 300mA max, when you can buy about 500 of them from Aliexpress for the same price.

Until you learn the hard way that they are not up to the standard advertised, if they happen to be rated in the first place. It is common knowledge that Chinese manufacturers maintains at least three configs of the same product, the best one sent off for rating, the middle for knowledgeable buyers, the worst being the 500-for-$7.99 shit for the mass market, who buys nothing but the cheapest.

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Post by bit-anarchist »

cubefox wrote: post #344
bit-anarchist wrote: post #327

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But they are.

False. There is plenty of empirical data on the destructive effects of many drugs.

That's still not proof of victimhood. Only that's imprudent to consume drugs.

Also, due to politization of the topic, part of the data is distorted to help sell the war on drugs, which had a much more destructive effect overall, aside from failing in its main goal.

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Post by NoGravitas »

miohtama wrote: post #185
thesmtsolver2 wrote: post #102

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Doesn’t TEMU have CCP ties? Free market is for businesses and individuals and foreign govt entities should not unfairly benefit from a free market.

Doesn't Bezos have Trump ties?

Amazon has acquired several companies that were originally funded by In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital front. This is pretty common in the tech industry. Some major tech companies, such as Palantir, were In-Q-Tel startups, and some began as CIA projects before In-Q-Tel was founded (Oracle).

Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by NoGravitas »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #130

… which found that a high percentage of chargers purchased through Temu failed basic electrical safety tests. It also found that a high proportion of baby toys posed safety risks, containing chemicals above legal limits or featuring small detachable parts that presented suffocation hazards… Boring. I can probably find the exact same on Amazon. From the headline, I was hoping the list of illegal products was going to…

The US is going to be selling weapons-grade plutonium to startups, so you may get your chance before long.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/26/climate/plutonium-nuclear...

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Post by dgellow »

cubefox wrote: post #372
dgellow wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only victim to weed are people getting jailed for it. Same for shrooms

Weed isn't harmless. For example, it can probably lead to long-term brain damage. It is also toxic for the lungs, although less so than tobacco, which is usually consumed in greater quantities.

Sure, but that’s not different from other things reserved to adults in life. And we don’t label those consumers as victims… it’s stretching the definition of victim to a point where it loses its value

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Post by pseudohadamard »

ben_w wrote: post #205
lopis wrote: post #184

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My line is a little bit further back. Any electronics that will be plugged to a wall... Lots of appliances are not safe.

Yup. I've even had an (Amazon rather than Temu) power-strip-and-USB combo noticeably sparking and tripping the apartment circuit breakers when plugged in just 6 months after purchase.

I was wondering when the EU was going to fine Temu West, aka. Amazon, given they sell things that are just as dangerous.

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Post by cubefox »

dgellow wrote: post #377
cubefox wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weed isn't harmless. For example, it can probably lead to long-term brain damage. It is also toxic for the lungs, although less so than tobacco, which is usually consumed in greater quantities.

Sure, but that’s not different from other things reserved to adults in life. And we don’t label those consumers as victims… it’s stretching the definition of victim to a point where it loses its value

Considering that there are a) many drugs that are substantially more dangerous than marijuana and that b) addiction does create users which are not in full control of their actions anymore, the term "drug victim" does make sense.

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Post by cubefox »

bit-anarchist wrote: post #374
cubefox wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False. There is plenty of empirical data on the destructive effects of many drugs.

That's still not proof of victimhood. Only that's imprudent to consume drugs. Also, due to politization of the topic, part of the data is distorted to help sell the war on drugs, which had a much more destructive effect overall, aside from failing in its main goal.

The ""war"" on drugs seems to be pretty successful in some countries where illegal drug usage is quite low compared to others.
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