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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by rimmontrieu »

MarcellusDrum wrote: post #230
wnmurphy wrote: post #211

I really want Spotify to follow. I feel cheated and deceived when I'm enjoying some music, then I realize that there's no bio for the artist and they released 7 albums in 2025. Users should be empowered to filter out AI content if they choose.

> I feel cheated and deceived Why? Not trying to argue against AI labeling, but if you are enjoying the music, why does it matter?

People care a lot about the story and the human artists behind their music, probably somewhat more than the music itself. When I discover some great metal songs, I'll look up their info, the band, the artists, their bio, everything related to the creation process and their history.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by skybrian »

bauble wrote: post #213
skybrian wrote: post #85

One advantage is that if it's labelled as AI, we don't need to have a conversation in the comments about whether it's AI or not.

Only if you view the label as accurate, which you really, really should not.

If an account claims to be a bot, I don't see much downside in assuming it's true?

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Post by 650REDHAIR »

Dwedit wrote: post #66
650REDHAIR wrote: post #19

Isn’t YouTube applying weird AI processing to shorts? So all shorts will be labeled? Maybe I’m not the target audience for Google products anymore? I have to use Yandex and DDG for search results now. Gemini has insane throttling so I’ve just embraced local models for most things and the occasional API call to whatever frontier model I think will work best. YouTube search is abysmal and new content is 98% consumerism…

I think the "weird AI processing" might have been someone misunderstanding a compression codec. When laypeople see anything advanced, it's always called AI no matter what it actually is, and that's the word that spreads around.

I’m not going to dox my YT channels, but I do know the difference between the two and a year ago YT admitted to automatic AI “enhancements”.

I’ve also seen the trend of TV clip slop using AI filters to I assume get by automatic copyright flagging/removal/de-monetization.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250822-youtube-is-using...

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Post by Barbing »

alwa wrote: post #303
bardackx wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find super HARD to believe that we ran out of musicians doing music in the styles of the 80s/90s maybe your friend just doesn't want to search for new music, and that is ok, it's ok to be lazy, not a crime; but saying nobody is making such music is a sad excuse.

It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great! I feel like this trope is strongest amongst musicians-feeling-underappreciated, but that the idea seeps in to all manners of creative work: that, because you’re rightfully proud of what you do, the audience is wronging you (or “lazy,” or “sad,” or “cheap,” or “tasteless”) by not appreciating it. It doesn’t make me feel a lot of sympathy.

That might be OK if Suno had compensated everybody they needed to.

I feel sympathy for people who made something that was reappropriated by those without strong ethics.

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Post by Barbing »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #275
vlunkr wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are millions of people making music in an ever-expanding set of genres. The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd. I guess she can listen to slop but maybe just look around a little instead? Edit: slop not slob

It's not just look around a little. It's look around a lot. It's spend all your music-listening time looking around. Have the ick for AI-gen, fine. But dismissing the things it solves puts you in a position where you'll never understand other people.

> It's spend all your music-listening time looking around.

Spotify algorithm not kind to everyone I suppose… I’m enough of a normie with music it works for me. Crate digging doesn’t feel too time consuming at all (as easy as throwing on quirky California college radio stations).

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Post by latentsea »

platevoltage wrote: post #292
giancarlostoro wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Slob" / "slop" is thrown around so much I don't take anyone seriously who drops that word unless the output matches the commentary. There's definitely a lot of trash AI stuff out there don't get me wrong, but there's also insanely high quality AI generated things out there. Hell, I've sent people songs made in Suno, and they were surprised to learn that those were AI generated. If you open suno and type in "90s jazz…

I just don't get it. Music isn't just what comes out of the speaker. There are artists, with lives and influences behind the music. There is personal expression in the lyrics. Even when the artist chooses to remain anonymous, or they choose to not have lyrics at all, there is still something personal behind it. A DAW is just a tool, and it's a tool that can be used badly, for example, over produced metal with quantiz…

> There is personal expression in the lyrics.

Sometimes there is. Sometimes it's just made up shit with no real backing in the same way a lot of stories told in comedy routines are. Not all of it is genuine expression.

I love music and I frequently go to live shows, so the bar for me has kind of become "Can I go see this artist live, OR is it so good that I don't care that I can't?" If it passes that, I'll listen. I've found one AI generated song that has made it onto my top 100 favorite songs I've ever heard.

The thing that really shits me with AI music is when it outputs default ChatGPT sounding lyrics. There's certain tells and boy do they give me the ick.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by latentsea »

harimau777 wrote: post #307
vlunkr wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are millions of people making music in an ever-expanding set of genres. The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd. I guess she can listen to slop but maybe just look around a little instead? Edit: slop not slob

Where would you look around? Previously web search, YouTube, and Reddit would have been my go to but they have all been enshittified.

YouTube is excellent. Aside from my main account I have one that I mainly just use to listen to music, and I just surf the algorithm listening to whatever is in the recommend list, which is usually a handful of songs I've got on heavy rotation, but YouTube also tends to cycle back some old favorites, and some new gems. I just keep surfing it day in day out letting it take me where it will as one of two main ways I listen to music. I regularly find new gems pretty reliably. All the gems then go to my playlist in Spotify, which I listen to during my commute.
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