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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

pier25 wrote: post #46
Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

> He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point Sorry I'm out of the loop... What inflection point are you referring to?

When OpenAI was founded, the mission was to develop AI, but nobody (anywhere) knew how to do AI, so OpenAI did ML research on games instead, which is what DeepMind was doing (with Google's perceived AI/ML dominance being the raison d'etre for OpenAI, and Google having just bought DeepMind). This was the era when Karpathy was at OpenAI.

Around the time Karpathy left, Ilya Sutskever, another OpenAI founder, started playing with Google's new "Transformer" architecture, which was the beginning of the "GPT" series, GPT-1, GPT-2 and eventually ChatGPT (GPT 3.5 + RLHF). In retrospect OpenAI's early Transformer experiments and GPT-1 was the inflection point that moved OpenAI from a company that wanted to build AI, as soon as anyone else did, to one that was actually doing so, although I think it would be revisionist for anyone to claim they knew what they were doing at the time. The early GPT-1 and GPT-2 papers read more like "wow, this is a bit unexpected, look at all of the things it can do!".

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by the_arun »

meetpateltech wrote: post #210

Karpathy will start this week on Anthropic's pre-training team, which is responsible for the massive training runs that give Claude its core knowledge and capabilities, according to Anthropic. Source: https://www.axios.com/2026/05/19/anthropic-openai-karpathy-a...

This is good branding move for Anthropic. Karpathy is well respected among ML crowd.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #326
pixelsort wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's probably his dumbest public idea to date. Given that this GPT repos and parts of autoresearch are brilliant I'm sympathetic. I think he's earned the right to exhibit mild expressions of AI psychosis at this point. And, my objection was that he clearly had no understanding of the supply-chain risk he was worsening by advocating widespread use of Obsidian for agentic engineering tasks. Since his announcemen…

Why is this dumb? Please educate those of us less brilliant than you!

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by worik »

redanddead wrote: post #51
Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is tha…

This is true for all the UASanian frontier model owners

They are all going to get their lunch eaten by the Chinese.

In the USA with access to most of the world's capital, they've succumbed to the temptation of "bigger, faster, harder"

Whilst the Chinese, with enough capital only, have had to think.

The Chinese models are already miles ahead on cost/inference basis and will probably pass all the USAnian companies in five years

The age of UASnian engineering dominance are coming to an end.

Let's all hope she goes quietly - not at the moment

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by CamperBob2 »

dwa3592 wrote: post #167
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #128

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And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.

yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. Anyone who wants to become a monopoly or very very large is probably suffering from some sort of a neural condition (psychosis, if plural) which we will study 100 years from now. Right now they are rewarded but I think our little minds forget to take the negative externalities into account. I am working on a short story on this topic which is set in 2…

yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'.

There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular basis.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

andrewrn wrote: post #369
cameldrv wrote: post #337

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He's an extraordinarily bright guy. He can get a lot more done in two years than most people, and he can get up to speed with a new organization and a new task and be productive much faster than most people. My impression with no inside knowledge, but understanding what Elon companies are like, is that he was assigned essentially an impossible task at Tesla and tried his very best, but it could not be done, and he se…

And in the case where a team gets overworked, there are legions more fresh and bright engineers to burn.

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by slaw »

comboy wrote: post #367
Traster wrote: post #329

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Tesla self driving kind of works. In a very similar way to how it kind of worked back in 2016. It's better than it was in 2016, don't get me wrong. But even today they haven't solved the problem and Karpathy left in 2022. And other companies notably have actually surpassed Tesla over that time. I don't think anyone could reasonably say he walked away in 2022 because he thought the job was finished.

Who surpassed Tesla that doesn't operate in some very limited region?

Waymo 70k driverless rides a day.

Apollo Go 100k driverless rides a day.

Tesla 0-5? driverless rides a day.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by zachncst »

the_arun wrote: post #372
meetpateltech wrote: post #210

Karpathy will start this week on Anthropic's pre-training team, which is responsible for the massive training runs that give Claude its core knowledge and capabilities, according to Anthropic. Source: https://www.axios.com/2026/05/19/anthropic-openai-karpathy-a...

This is good branding move for Anthropic. Karpathy is well respected among ML crowd.

Minor celebrity fwiw - deserved though.
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