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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

electroly wrote: post #282
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, this is actual progress. Now it would be amazing if "Update and Shut Down" would actually update and shut down, instead of doing so like 50% of the time with the other 50% just updating and restarting with an actual shut down. (This is on various very diverse machines so I'm rather sure is common, and not just an interaction with a particular machine). It's baffling that a company like MS can leave this kind o…

They recently acknowledged and fixed this issue. I can personally confirm it hasn't happened to me since the update. https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-fixes-update-and-shut-d...

Great to know. I would say that it happened to me more recently but it may have been in machines that had been unused for some months and ran an old version.

According to the link, it "only" took them 5 years to solve the bug. Better late than ever though, I guess :)

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by dartharva »

Keyframe wrote: post #101
neya wrote: post #67

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It's always the MBAs. The organizational structure incentivises them on the wrong metrics. So they adapt and optimize for that. In real life, after a while, you hit a plateau with features and market demand. What these MBA clowns love to do is take what's already perfectly fine and mess it up and create a road map for it to fix something to being it the way it was, so they can justify to their higher ups they are "ad…

Which company would you say is the example(s) of the latter? Sounds like utopia I'd like to be a part of.

I don't use its products myself but Apple fits this definition perhaps; its current CEO is a former engineering head, the previous CEO was a former operations head and the one before him was Steve Jobs.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by lpcvoid »

engeljohnb wrote: post #111
snerc wrote: post #78

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I've never read a more archpilled comment

Linux is doing just fine without normies.

The normies are what makes Microslop money, though. We need to get the normies onboard in order to fight MS' stranglehold on computing. Gatekeeping isn't the right move here.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by grassfedgeek »

ninjagoo wrote: post #234
grassfedgeek wrote: post #201

With Windows Update what I really want is control over reboot. Don't automatically reboot, instead let me save documents, close applications and reboot manually. "Pausing" updates doesn't do that, and could be dangerous as urgent security updates are delayed. With AI features, the most annoying thing has to be the Copilot key on my laptop keyboard. If you accidentally hit it it opens a Copilot window, interrupting yo…

> The Settings app for this key only allow you to specify whether it activates search or copilot, it doesn't let you turn it off. That's because it's not your computer, it is Microsoft's ;-) Seriously, though, there will be quirks like with almost any OS. OS devs make choices that abstract some of the complexity in order to make it useful for a broad audience. With Linux or the BSDs, you have the freedom to take it t…

> That's because it's not your computer, it is Microsoft's ;-)

I think it is because allowing the key to be disabled will make Microsoft look dumb for adding the key in the first place!

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by dartharva »

Someone wrote: post #83
PeterStuer wrote: post #40

What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. What Microsoft wants: Windows as their straightjacket into the Microsoft services as that is where the revenue is. Why Windows got this bad: incentives and coercion placed on the teams to show uptake on the services no matter what leading to perversion in tactics and complete alienation of the user bas…

> What people realy want: as little OS as possible to let them run just the things on their computer they want to run. Citation needed. “As little OS as possible” would mean not having a standard clipboard, not having a standard way to install fonts, etc. Even interpreting that as “all the functionality, but limit applications to utilities for managing the hardware”, I think there people who want that, but I doubt th…

Hacker News Guidelines #19:

    Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by steve1977 »

GeneralMaximus wrote: post #206
irishcoffee wrote: post #110

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The day I can’t make a local-only account on windows (for personal use, work is a different matter unfortunately) is the day I stop using windows. It’s irritating enough that new linux installs want me to add accounts. I can skip it, which is nice, but just don’t show the screen. If you’re installing linux you either know what you’re doing or you don’t: if you do you know it’s possible and don’t need it jammed in you…

I don't even want a local account, I just want to be able to set a custom username for my account instead of some autogenerated jumble of letters. My Microsoft Account email is "contact@ ". If I set up a new Windows 11 computer using this account, Windows picks the first 4 letters of my email address and sets that as the username. So my username becomes "conta", and the path to my user directory becomes "C:\Users\con…

My account email is info@.com.

I feel you.

And what I do is create a local account and then add the Microsoft account to it after creation.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by ninjagoo »

dartharva wrote: post #372

They wouldn't have had to face such embarrassment and rollbacks and spend billions had they just stuck to maintaining Windows 10 in the first place. To this day any improvement W11 offers over W10 is still an enigma.

> To this day any improvement W11 offers over W10 is still an enigma.

Win 11 may not offer improvements for you, but it may be designed to offer big benefits for MS: ads, data monetization, ai, data for training ai.

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Post by cshokie »

Someone1234 wrote: post #270
mdavid626 wrote: post #91

I literraly can’t name one feature since Windows 7 what was worth it, even on the contrary: every update made the system worse. I had to restore Notepad, Calculator and Paint from Windows 7. What the hell Microsoft?

This may be unpopular, but they made three legitimately GOOD changes to Notepad, before they went absolutely batshit. - Dark mode - Tabs - "Continue previous session" (restore after restart) But they also made a HUGE regression which isn't talked about enough: - Previously, if you delete the underlying file, Notepad didn't "notice." Meaning you could Save to recreate it. The file existed in an ephemeral state, as lon…

Notepad also understands line endings and text encodings now, instead of always writing as CRLF UTF-16. That eliminates a whole class of “save file in notepad, corrupting it” trouble.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by donmcronald »

nickjj wrote: post #179
theandrewbailey wrote: post #112

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> Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. Microsoft needs to learn consent. Everywhere there's a Yes and "Remind me later", there has to be a No. And the No has to work and be remembered forever, not forgotten after the next update. Using Windows has to stop feeling like you're being roofied all the time.

Yeah this seems to be a trend over the last few years. Google does this too. I don't have photos backed up to my Google account on a Pixel and every few days if I open the photos app it prompts me to backup to the cloud and I always have to click "maybe later", "not now" or whatever they decide to name it. It's messed up because if I were to accidentally ever click yes to that it would fill up my Google storage and I…

This happens to my family :-(

I host an Immich server for us. They don’t want Google Photos syncing and they know to watch out for the dark patterns, but, eventually, they come over with Google Photos syncing.

The other day my mother came to me with a OneDrive prompt on her Pixel. It was asking if she wanted to “free up space”. I’m pretty sure it was trying to get her to sync photos. I wish I would have taken a screenshot. She’s not low on space.

Of course, the only way space gets freed up is if they delete your local copies. It’s practically ransomware and they can’t figure out why people hate them.

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