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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by renegade-otter »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #354
renegade-otter wrote: post #156

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Pardon me for feeling icky when giving money to the guy who is obsessed with "white replacement". I am old and cynical - I have no illusions, but I also have my limits and a semblance of moral compass. We, as citizens, can vote with ballots, but also with money. And, no, I am not someone who keeps boycotting companies for every little grievance (was on the receiving end of that nonsense twice).

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"I know who Hugo Boss caters to but, damn, they make good threads."

- Someone in the 1930s, probably.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by AlwaysRock »

HardCodedBias wrote: post #356
artdigital wrote: post #17

Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

I use ChatGPT all of the time, but the model backing the voice model (or it's settings) is intensely stupid. If Grok is actually good here, they will have a customer!

I could be wrong but I think the voice mode that chatgpt uses is still a 4.something model.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

tocariimaa wrote: post #357
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #267

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Why do Americans love to bring black people into everything?

I didn't bring it into everything. I brought up the fact that the X datacenter in Tennessee is killing people, predominately poor black people. Thats the facts. I'm sorry that upsets you, and apparently this entire site for some reason.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by cimi_ »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #27

As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…

> As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer

How do you know it's actually better? I'm not trying to be condescending, but this reads to me like vibes :)

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by nico »

vorticalbox wrote: post #333
sudb wrote: post #57

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So interestingly, I know of at least one application in a charity that deals with trafficking where grok was happy to do one-shot classification tasks where all other models refused to cooperate. I think there's a surprising number of actually useful applications in this sort of grey area for a slightly-less guardrailed, near-frontier model (also the grok-fast models are cheap!).

I am software dev and i was doing a security check on my own application (work) I was running in localhost and gave it access to the code. every single model refused to attempt to run any sort of test to check if it was a n issue other than grok.

A couple of days ago, using codex at work, all of a sudden it said my session had been flagged for security reasons. I wasn’t doing anything cybersecurity related, nor testing any vulnerabilities or anything like that, just trying to build a pretty simple web app

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by vrganj »

gadders wrote: post #360
vrganj wrote: post #328

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Perú Libre. Your turn. Name a leftist party that's obsessed with identity politics.

UK Green Party UK Labour Party US Democratic Party

Those are all liberal, e.g. center-right. None of them argue for public ownership of the means of production, none of them argue for major redistribution.

When have you ever heard them talk of class warfare? Like I said, identity is a way to distract from class and you're currently falling for it.

Don't let the oligarchs deceive you, comrade. No struggle but the class struggle!

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by danny_codes »

kardianos wrote: post #265
Barbing wrote: post #175

Grok 4.3 was completed ahead of its CEO’s lesson on this common safety resource: Asked if he knew anything about OpenAI's "safety card," Musk smiled and replied: "Safety card? Why would it be a card?" https://www.axios.com/2026/04/30/musk-openai-safety-grok Low relevancy in spite of cluster size and musical chair gas generators for time being: Later in his testimony, Musk was asked about a claim he made last summer t…

Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. He has stated that the only safe models are those which align greatest with truth, that which is in reality. In this, xAI has lived up, as it has proved to hallucinate least (or close to least) in benchmarks. If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?"

Sure he does. That’s why he marketed full-self driving as safe and got a bunch of people killed

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Post by Romario77 »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #316
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #213

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I did a quick eval comparing Grok 4.3, Opus 4.7 and GPT 4.1 and they actually seem pretty similar: https://ofw640g9re.evvl.io/ They all did pretty well at a more "formal" tone, but GPT4.1 was the only one that didn't make me cringe with a "casual" tone. [edit] fwiw, grok was also the fastest+cheapest model, claude was slowest and priciest.

This is the most basic level of eval, of whether they can produce output that will be considered by someone somewhere (usually a young urban US American) as informal toned. Real human communication is far more nuanced than this, different groups have different linguistic registers they're used to and things outside it sound odd even if they can't articulate why. You could also want to be informal but not over-familia…

you said that English is not your first language, so heads up - you don't need "for" when you use "e.g.", it already means "for example".

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by danny_codes »

mikeyouse wrote: post #114
flir wrote: post #58

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Didn't a bunch of hardware that was destined for Tesla get redirected to xAI? I'm sure I remember something like that.

Yep! Why his shareholders in Tesla abide by this kind of thing is beyond me, but he often mixes resources from completely unrelated companies: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/04/elon-musk-told-nvidia-to...

Pesky laws only apply to plebs

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by SecretDreams »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #368
SecretDreams wrote: post #358

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> Don't worry, I am an adult and intend to stay and better the community. Woof, glad to hear that. I was losing sleep before you clarified this one. Your first comment is effectively "the ends justified the means". I think this is a perspective more easily held when your own life isn't impacted by "the means", but does benefit from "the ends". Life's got plenty of nuance - we don't need to lose our humanity at every…

>Your first comment is effectively "the ends justified the means". Yes? Welcome to the real world. The Nazis developed technologies that Western Europe, USA and the Soviet Union all wanted. In your view what should the US have done? Let the Soviets poach them all up and get better at tech and maybe take over Europe even more? >I think this is a perspective more easily held when your own life isn't impacted by "the me…

> Would Linux have "just happened anyway" without Linus Torvalds? Would Windows have happened without Bill Gates? Facebook without Mark? Clean sewage without Joseph Bazalgette? Mobile X-Rays without Marie Curie? This is in reaction to your Werner Van Braun comment. Do you really think the USA set him to make rockets and engines because he was just a random engineer? No, some people are truly geniuses, and their one impact can matter.

Probably yes to most of these things. We as ICs like to put the greatest of ICs on a pedestal and imagine that those specific individuals are the only ones that could have conceived of those specific ideas and correctly executed them. Nothing is really further from the case. Maybe the exact iterations would change and the timing by which they would come to be - but none of us are so special that the world would cease without us. Technology would carry on. Might just look a bit different. We're all innovating every single day. That's the shotgun approach to humanity (and even startup investment). Some will succeed, some will fail. The successes and failures will rarely playout strictly because of the individual. But history will remember the individuals because they did it, and they'll be GOATED for doing it. And rightfully so. But they were not uniquely capable of doing it. We can celebrate successes without all of the other nonsense you're parroting.

The rest of your post is relatively jaded and incompatible with my own views, so I'm happy to call it here. Spend some time traveling the world and finding love.

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