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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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There are so many bots/trolls on HN now, it's crazy.

Are they initiating or continuing curious discussion? If so, then by all means they are following the most important HN guidelines so nothing can really be done.

Bot/AI generated comments are specifically against the guidelines (and also implicitly, given the fact that bots aren't curious).

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Maybe you’ve been in a coma, but there’s this dude in the White House that has imploded science funding. We’ve probably displaced a quarter million people directly, and universities are attriting more as foreign students aren’t coming. The copium offered is “go become a tradesman”. It’s just pandering nonsense offered to keep smug old people living in 1970 in line.

>The copium offered is “go become a tradesman”. It’s just pandering nonsense offered to keep smug old people living in 1970 in line. Yeah sure, because every american/westerner can become a 500k/year tech bro, no matter their IQ, and we don't need domestic skilled trained plumbers because democrats can replace them with a gorillion imported illegals.

Who pays the plumbers, bro? Who trains them?

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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You do in fact need to fix the wire first! That's a very important part of an electrical fire. Power must no longer be dissipated via the bad wire before you start trying to extinguish the fire. You don't need to do RCA and repair the cabinet but if you try firefighting first you might be in for a shock.

Power must no longer be dissipated via the bad wire before you start trying to extinguish the fire. Says who? This is a analogy, try to calibrate to the conversation instead of making up nonsense while ignoring the context. What you're saying isn't even true if taken literally, take a step back.

In what universe are you applying firefighting material to something that is still electrified?

The analogy is pretty easy, man. It is straight up a failure of triage to look at Trump and say “what needs to go is everything around this”

Similarly, it is a failure to begin firefighting attempts on something that is still drawing power.

Maybe ask yourself why this is a difficult concept.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Power must no longer be dissipated via the bad wire before you start trying to extinguish the fire. Says who? This is a analogy, try to calibrate to the conversation instead of making up nonsense while ignoring the context. What you're saying isn't even true if taken literally, take a step back.

In what universe are you applying firefighting material to something that is still electrified? The analogy is pretty easy, man. It is straight up a failure of triage to look at Trump and say “what needs to go is everything around this” Similarly, it is a failure to begin firefighting attempts on something that is still drawing power. Maybe ask yourself why this is a difficult concept.

In what universe are you applying firefighting material to something that is still electrified?

Actually you would probably put out the things that are burning.

The analogy is pretty easy, man. It is straight up a failure of triage to look at Trump and say “what needs to go is everything around this”

It might not be that easy, man, because this sentence doesn't make a lot of sense, man.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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>The copium offered is “go become a tradesman”. It’s just pandering nonsense offered to keep smug old people living in 1970 in line. Yeah sure, because every american/westerner can become a 500k/year tech bro, no matter their IQ, and we don't need domestic skilled trained plumbers because democrats can replace them with a gorillion imported illegals.

Who pays the plumbers, bro? Who trains them?

1. The people who call the plumber

2. Ausbildung

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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its very transparent what they're doing they're almost certainly going to replace all the board memebers with political loyalists. the board members served six year terms specifically so they'd span multiple administrations and stay independent. firing them all at once lets you stack the entire board with people. it's not about making science better, it's about removing the people who'd say no.

That works... for the duration of this administration. Given the precedent, though, there's no reason for the next president not to fire all the new ones and replace them again.

The current administration does not appear to care at all about what the next administration will do, which should terrify us. It's like a kidnapper who doesn't seem concerned with you seeing their face.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Maybe you need to be less comfortable with being wrong and educate yourself about politics more before you comment a dozen times with misinformation then claim you’re totally innocent and were just “asking questions”. That shit is so common amongst trump supporters. Not sayings you are but you’re playing the same game as they do.

I was transparent in where I was at. You are making statements based on nothing. We are all human, we make mistakes, your the one with the problem if you cant see this.

You almost seem proud of your ignorance, maybe you should be learning something from this rather than just being fine with your hour of arguing misinformation. If you are truly not ashamed of bring ignorant and spreading FUD because of that, then I guess there’s nothing more for me to say to such a person. You didn’t just make a mistake, you sat here and doubled and tripled and quadrupled down for an hour while people tried to correct you over and over and you simply didn’t even look up anything, only coming to your realization after someone fed you a link.

This is why they say lies go round the world before the truth gets its shoes on.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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post #377

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I was transparent in where I was at. You are making statements based on nothing. We are all human, we make mistakes, your the one with the problem if you cant see this.

You almost seem proud of your ignorance, maybe you should be learning something from this rather than just being fine with your hour of arguing misinformation. If you are truly not ashamed of bring ignorant and spreading FUD because of that, then I guess there’s nothing more for me to say to such a person. You didn’t just make a mistake, you sat here and doubled and tripled and quadrupled down for an hour while peopl…

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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Agree and disagree. The US has been on a downward spiral towards 'this' for a long time, but Trump literally self-selected to be the face of the intentional rapid acceleration of it. Calling Trump a scapegoat is incredibly kind to his intentional destruction and, to still put it far too kindly, "vindictive nastiness in attempt to profit" (which, I think, also depressingly describes what has become of the US tech sect…

If the status quo system was doing their job(s) there would be no DJT in the WH. Full stop. Not once. Certainly not twice. But rather than own their failure, they work - hard - the “OMG it’s all his fault” narrative (read: deflection and distraction) and it works. So well, they keep doing it. But repetition of a lie doesn’t make it true. Concession to buy into a lie, also doesn’t make it true. No doubt DJT has his fl…

"How did we get here?" - No one really wants to ask this question. We've had decades of tax policy, trade policy, health policy that created tremendous wealth inequality.

In Q4 2016 (upon Trump's first election), the bottom 50% owned just $1 trillion out of $90 trillion.

The system failed them. Trump is a populist.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...

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