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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by thepasch » Wed, Apr 22, 2026, 11:51 AM UTC

K0balt wrote: post #345

thepasch wrote: post #261

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It depends on how you review. In an orchestrated per-task review workflow with clearly defined acceptance criteria and implementation requirements, using anything other than Sonnet (handed those criteria and requirements) hasn’t really led to much improvement, but it drives up usage and takes longer. I even tried Haiku, but, yeah, Haiku is just not viable for review, even tightly scoped, lol. Siccing Sonnet on a code…

That makes sense, if your scope is tight enough, good enough is good enough. I’ve got the expected specifications and code style guides, including some aerospace engineering ones, but in complex systems I still run into difficult to sus out corner cases where the code works but the system breaks, usually due to unresolved conflicts in operational requirements.

There’s definitely a ceiling for what LLMs are capable of, and I think aerospace engineering might just currently be it, haha.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by mannanj » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 5:29 PM UTC

triceratops wrote: post #362

mannanj wrote: post #359

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He got a pay off, don't put a straw man in front of me though I refuse to engage your straw man.

What's the strawman?

Well I took your bad faith interpretation of my share as a straw man, seems I was wrong.

> You're saying Fauci and Hunter paid Joe off?

No I am not saying that.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by sterlind » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 8:22 AM UTC

konschubert wrote: post #297

sterlind wrote: post #283

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against those components being Mythos specifically, or against every major intelligence agency using frontier models to find vulns?

I don’t think the GRU is running Mythos on their servers, for example

not Mythos, no, but they're probably running some kind of vuln-finding frontier models. maybe GLM or Kimi fine-tuned on a dataset of past CVEs or something.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by Geezus_42 » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 2:35 PM UTC

mcmcmc wrote: post #263

Geezus_42 wrote: post #226

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Except the politicians just ask their rich friends to do the things they aren't allowed to do and then act like there's nothing they can do.

And that makes autocracy better somehow? Democracies are designed to evolve. If government corruption is a problem, we as citizens have the power to change that. Laws can be passed to add controls, fund enforcement, require transparency. Write to your reps and demand it. Call their offices and rattle their gates. If they don’t make it happen, vote in someone who will.

I never said autocracy is better. We already have laws against a great number of things that are currently happening, but they are either enforced selectively or not at all. For many of what I would consider the most aggregious violations, even when punishments are handed down they are so weak that they do nothing to deter the crime. Companies literally figure the fines for laws they know they are breaking into their budget and people keep pretending like the system works.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by K0balt » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 11:08 PM UTC

thepasch wrote: post #371

K0balt wrote: post #345

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That makes sense, if your scope is tight enough, good enough is good enough. I’ve got the expected specifications and code style guides, including some aerospace engineering ones, but in complex systems I still run into difficult to sus out corner cases where the code works but the system breaks, usually due to unresolved conflicts in operational requirements.

There’s definitely a ceiling for what LLMs are capable of, and I think aerospace engineering might just currently be it, haha.

Lol yeah, I don’t think I’m ready to ride in the jet that Claude built lol. I should clarify that I use the code guidelines because they are solid guardrails for making things that perform predictably, not because I’m building MCAS lol. Let’s hope that “vibe aerospace engineering” is a way off for now.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by thin_carapace » Mon, Apr 27, 2026, 2:34 PM UTC

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #353

thin_carapace wrote: post #344

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its not clear whether youre ramping up the virtue signalling, being polite, or trying to be the argumentative strongman. if you care about the way you look to me, the former and latter would probably be my perception of you. out of good faith i shall follow the middle option and execute the jump instruction myself.

It is not just 'tone police', or signaling. I have watched a enough of Fox News to know they are not reporting, on a number of subjects. And so people that only consume right wing news, are in a bubble, and their arguments do follow similar patterns based on that ignorance. My response was what it was, just seeing the pattern presenting itself early. Why waste more time on engaging with BS? Arguing with True Believer…

to me it sounds like youre too weak of an argumenter to crack deep programming, and would rather throw the towel in early than have an attempt. sure man, that's your call. just saying it looks super weak to throw the towel in, may as well not get in the ring.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by account42 » Tue, Apr 28, 2026, 11:20 AM UTC

insane_dreamer wrote: post #343

at-fates-hands wrote: post #341

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it doesn't take bias to spot the corruption in this government; yes, there have always been problems, but the level of corruption and grift in this administration is truly unprecedented (you'd have to go back to before Civil Service Reform Act to find possibly comparable levels). but if you have examples from previous admins, feel free to explain how they're comparable

It does take bias to ignore the corruption in previous governments by pretending this is something new.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by Geezus_42 » Fri, May 01, 2026, 6:48 PM UTC

mcmcmc wrote: post #263

Geezus_42 wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except the politicians just ask their rich friends to do the things they aren't allowed to do and then act like there's nothing they can do.

And that makes autocracy better somehow? Democracies are designed to evolve. If government corruption is a problem, we as citizens have the power to change that. Laws can be passed to add controls, fund enforcement, require transparency. Write to your reps and demand it. Call their offices and rattle their gates. If they don’t make it happen, vote in someone who will.

I never said autocracy is better. I hope you are right. I do vote for people who at least appear to lean towards my ideal. The problem is being surrounded by people who are indoctrinated to vote the opposite, and being let down by the few who do win. There do appear to be pockets where good things are happening on the local level, but at the national level it's a shit show.