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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Cell carriers sell geofenced data about cell phones in an area at a given time to anyone. There's zero privacy. KYC laws mean that his carrier has his name and email address and the feds probably got that without anyone informing the customer.

Tracfone burners for any protests?

The laws closed that loophole a long time ago. You have to either present a photo ID to buy in a brick and mortar store or sign for the package when delivering to an address.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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I use Fastmail and the main difference I notice is less effective spam filtering — it’s good but not as great as Gmail was. Overall it’s been an acceptable trade off and I’m glad years ago I switched to a custom domain for email so I can have portability.

Damn that’s wild to me, because Gmail absolutely refuses to send things to spam despite me incessantly marking them as spam. I honestly assumed that everyone had a rotten time with Gmail spam filtering but I guess it’s just a me problem. I suppose that means I’m up for an interesting time dealing with it as I move to a custom domain somewhere else. Anyone have any recommendations for providers that have exceptionally…

It's not just you. I experience the same thing. It is thoroughly maddening.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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I simply assume that everything that travels out of my home through a wire gets tracked and stored by the government. Everywhere you go, if your phone is in your pocket, you are being tracked and stored, and available to the government. Everywhere your car goes, is tracked and stored and available to the government. BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data.

This is (mostly, but not entirely) true - but it's also a completely useless statement. It doesn't help anyone change their behavior with regards to seeking privacy day to day, and it doesn't help anyone know what to do to change the state of affairs. It's smug and defeatist, and seems to imply that there's nothing that can be done to change it.

There are many things everyday people can do to insulate themselves from these choices. Encrypted DNS, VPNs, avoiding cloud services, educating friends on why Gmail is really Fedmail, etc. It's not so over-and-done with as you seem to make it out to be.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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An extensive comment history signals alignment with the community.

What does it mean to be aligned with HN? Cause pretty sure I'm not that

All communities have rules of behavior.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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This story is the one that finally pushed me to leave google. I moved off my ~20 year old Google account and deleted everything off their services including almost a decade of Google photos. I cancelled my Google one subscription for extra space. I'm now self hosting what I can and paying proton mail for everything else. I refuse to allow a company that will hand over data at the request of an administrative warrant…

Nice. I want to do the same too. What process/workflow did you use to move all the websites you had given your email addresses to, to move to your proton email? I am guessing it will take several years, but I would like to start the move of my gmail.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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I still don't understand. Who gave ICE such power, and who is ordering them to do all this? To me, ICE's actions are similar to those of a private army.

The people. We voted for the people who gave the power, and we re-elected them. It’s really that simple. Is it “too late” now? maybe, but we had ~25 years since this all started post 911 to react, and chose not to.

> We voted for the people who gave the power, and we re-elected them.

That would be true if We The People were reliably informed when we showed up to cast our votes. However, in recent years, we have become detached from reality. "News media" companies pivoted away from keeping their audiences informed about things that mattered and instead focused on capturing audiences and keeping those audiences maximally engaged so that they could be sold to advertisers and otherwise exploited.

Now when people show up to the polls, they think they're voting to keep themselves safe from violent crimnals running rampant; they think they are voting to keep out the flood of strange outsiders coming to take their jobs and eat their family pets. But in reality they're voting for -- and getting -- something quite different.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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It is the US administration that is flaunting the law, not Google. Nobody is actually asking Google to break the law, they are in fact asking it to follow the law by not complying with illegal requests.

Which requests in this case were illegal? And isn't legality established by the person suing the government in this case and not megacorp playing the lawyer?

ICE's use of "administrative subpoenas" and other executive tactics are in violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution. To operate legally, their request would need to be approved by a judge. That's not even a high bar, given the judiciary rubber-stamps the vast majority of warrants, but they can't even be bothered with that. The article points out that Google used to notify users of exactly this kind of request specifically so that the victim of the crime had time to challenge the subpoena in court, where it would be tossed out without giving away their private information, but now people are no longer being given a chance to defend themselves from abuse by Google's complicity.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech indicates that this absolutely needs to be on the HN front page. > the administration’s rhetoric about cracking down on students protesting what we saw as genocide forced me into hiding for three months. Federal agents came to my home looking for me. A friend was detained at an airport in Tampa and interrogated about my whereabouts.

If it helps you feel better, I voted for free speech and feel that the administration did not hold up their end of the deal. The FTC’s recent “debanking” letter to the payment processors is just theater until something changes. I’ll leave it at that.

You voted against free speech. The sooner you can admit to that the better.

Trump has been very clearly against free speech well before 2015. He's been anti-American and anti-constituion well before he came down that escalator.

It doesn't make me feel better that you're still pretending otherwise.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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> For me, most threads get their own account. This is a violation of the guidelines: "Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to."

It's also futile because you generate a signature that can be traced across aliases, sites, etc.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Good, there was nothing that needed confronting. Iran's regime sucked (still sucks), to be sure. This was frankly not all that much of an issue for the US. It was a big issue for other Arab nations in the area (not to mention for Israel), but I'm not sure why we should be doing their dirty work. If the end result of all this is a large weakening in Iran's regime, a reduction in Iran's influence in the region, and (ot…

"Iran's regime sucked" because they kicked out our western puppet? or is it because Iran is a a democracy, unlike "other Arab nations" (by the way iranian are as much arabs than you) or Israel ? (Note that I'm not fan of Iran culture, but I'm not fan of ingroup cultures either).
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