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81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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crazygringo wrote: post #323
vaylian wrote: post #208

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> It doesn't have any more information than the info you give it to buy the tickets in the first place. Many apps ask for permission to use your GPS position and other sensor data, even though they don't need it. Most non-technical people don't understand what that means and will just allow it.

> Many apps ask for permission to use your GPS position and other sensor data, even though they don't need it. What on earth are you talking about? I've installed hundreds of apps in my life and literally never seen that.

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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by bialpio »

ahartmetz wrote: post #245
abnercoimbre wrote: post #222

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I know Chrome / Chrome-adjacent googlers who swear by Firefox.

What are their reasons? I can imagine a few and I use Firefox myself, but I'd be interested in anything non-obvious.

There's no extension support for Chrome on Android. There's no way to stop Chrome on Android from hiding the address bar when scrolling. Those were mine, not sure if they still apply.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by kube-system »

pc86 wrote: post #46
Molitor5901 wrote: post #38

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This is a really good point. I'm surprised the box office cannot print it for him for a fee at Will Call, which might be the solution here.

No, it's not. If you are physically incapable of operating a piece of technology, the ADA covers reasonable accommodations for that. If you are simply unwilling to learn how to use a piece of technology, it doesn't and shouldn't cover that. Being a luddite is not a protected class.

Technology is often an issue for elderly people not because of disability or unwillingness, but because they lack the literacy, cognitive or motor skills necessary to operate technology that they are not familiar with. Many of them worked an entire career and retired before PC or cellphones were commonplace.

Maybe you are so familiar with computing that you take computing skills for granted.... but things like Solitaire were included in Windows explicitly to train people how to use a mouse. These skills are second nature to us but they aren't something we are born with.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by dotancohen »

ryandrake wrote: post #282
tomwheeler wrote: post #84

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> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. Maybe it's not about the money. Maybe he does not want the negative consequences that come along with having a smartphone. Maybe he has dexterity issues that make using a smartphone difficult. Maybe he doesn't want to install their invasive app. Maybe he finds that paper tickets are easier to manage. Maybe he recognizes that the vend…

He shouldn't even need a reason. "I don't want a smartphone" should be sufficient and should not lock one out of commerce, events, and other cultural experiences. In 50 years, everyone's going to have an advertisement-injecting brain implant, and stores are going to require you to have one in order to purchase anything, and they'll lock you out of commerce as a filthy Luddite if you don't get one. And, 50 years from…

In my country there is a large religious population that eschew the smartphone. This is great - no government or private service simply assumes that one has a smartphone. All services are available via traditional means - most in three to five languages as well.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by fsflover »

crazygringo wrote: post #52

From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better.

What if I do own a smartphone, but it runs neither Android nor iOS, it runs GNU/Linux? Do you consider that a previous technology, too? I'm pretty sure they provide no app for me.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by array_key_first »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #92
parpfish wrote: post #45

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on a roadtrip i stopped in a small town for lunch with street parking paid by app. super frustrating that i needed to sit in my car and download an app and set up an account just to park for an hour in a town i'm never going back to

But you still did it, didn't you? Congrats, you're an essential part of the problem.

We live in a society.

The dude was hungry, what was he to do? We can't expect consumers to fix everything with dollar votes. They have lives, families, hobbies, things to do!

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by CamperBob2 »

array_key_first wrote: post #376
CamperBob2 wrote: post #92

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But you still did it, didn't you? Congrats, you're an essential part of the problem.

We live in a society. The dude was hungry, what was he to do? We can't expect consumers to fix everything with dollar votes. They have lives, families, hobbies, things to do!

Eat somewhere else.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

9rx wrote: post #343
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #305

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Okay or Walmart are you now suggesting that the world should never move on from anything analog?

I am suggesting that if you have enough money to buy a ticket, but then take some portion of that amount away to buy a smartphone, you will no longer have enough to buy said ticket.

So someone has enough money to buy a season ticket and $40 extra is going to kill them?

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

sapphicsnail wrote: post #338
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #218

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No there isn’t a good reason for the nanny state and giving the government more power over your life

How are nanny corporations any better?

Nanny corporations don’t have a “monopoly on [legalized] violence” and can’t compel me to do anything with guns

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #339
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #218

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No there isn’t a good reason for the nanny state and giving the government more power over your life

1980 wants it's republican talking point back. It's 2026, we've seen that free speech absoluters don't actually care about protecting all speech. We've seen 'small government' and 'no government power over your life' supporters suddenly just fine with it when women's right to choose is taken away by the government. Or when the government wants to decide/legally enforce gender their gender definition. We've seen the '…

So you just listed all of the things that corrupt capricious government can do abd you want to give that same government power?
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