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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by mckn1ght »

polyamid23 wrote: post #201
mckn1ght wrote: post #198

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I think humans are machines, they are just vastly more advanced than any machine invented by humans. This is something I thought long before the current AI hype cycle. What do you think are some important differences between machines and humans?

Is there a difference in how you treat machines vs how you treat humans?

At an abstract enough level, not really. I treat them with care and try to give them whatever they need to do their thing. I want them to last as long as possible.

But in asking this question you must have some differences in mind. Could you speak to some of those?

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Post by rauljordan2020 »

ragazzina wrote: post #252
rauljordan2020 wrote: post #158

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I feel like now, you can't even tell! I was in an uber drive where the driver had this incredible playlist of Brazilian bossa nova. It was sublime and some of the best tracks I ever heard. He even said he loves the singer but cannot find their name anywhere. It turns out it's a youtube playlist that is fully AI generated and genuinely some of the best bossa nova you can imagine. I still hear that playlist daily tbh.…

Would you mind sharing a link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3pD7b08VII

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Post by rauljordan2020 »

dadoomer wrote: post #167
rauljordan2020 wrote: post #155

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Sometimes you can't even tell. I was in an uber drive where the driver had this incredible playlist of Brazilian bossa nova. It was sublime and some of the best tracks I ever heard. He even said he loves the singer but cannot find their name anywhere. It turns out it's a youtube playlist that is fully AI generated and genuinely some of the best bossa nova you can imagine. I still hear that playlist daily tbh. Moreove…

What's the playlist? Curious as a bossa enjoyer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3pD7b08VII

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Post by IAmBroom »

brigandish wrote: post #301
input_sh wrote: post #280

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It's not like this one's even trying to hide it, one look at their Instagram will tell you everything: https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/ I'd like to point out that there's absolutely no way an Instagram account that is not even a month old gets hundreds of thousands of likes almost every upload. That should be an immediate red flag to everyone, Instagram included. Another thing worth pointing out is that iT…

> Do you buy music on iTunes? That's like asking HN if they buy Christmas CDs at Tesco. This is a very self-selecting group of people. I know people who buy off of iTunes, who don't use Spotify, who've never heard of Bandcamp, who still listen to the radio… there are people beyond your little bubble. It's a big old world.

You're re-arguing their point. They are saying it's such a diverse market that iTunes doesn't effectively act as a proxy for the whole market anymore, not that no one shops there anymore (shades of "No one goes there anymore... It's too crowded!").

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Post by IAmBroom »

shevy-java wrote: post #233
tzs wrote: post #95

I wonder how well it would work to use AI as a front end to Band-in-a-Box? Band-in-a-Box is a commercial program that has been around since 1990. What it did then was let you specify a chord progression, style, tempo, and instruments and it would make a generate a MIDI track. I think it might have also been able to take a melody and come up with a chord progression for it in a style/genre of your choosing. The target…

Personally I would feel ripped off if I'd bought music that would be generated by AI but there was no notification that this was done. Any group that would do so I would permanently disregard for any further consumption or attention from me.

> Any group that would do so I would permanently disregard for any further consumption or attention from me.

Much like saying "I will no longer buy from Brand X on Amazon." I guarantee you that ten "other" companies sell the exact same thing, and they all come from China (or AI, in this case).

Brand reputation is fairly meaningless in a market like that. I mean, sure, Levi's still protects their brand, and Bruce Springsteen won't be putting out any AI musical slop, but if it's ShurFit pants or music by Jest Happening... who knows?

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Post by tananan »

donkeybeer wrote: post #261
tananan wrote: post #254

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How are we machines?

What is the non machine part? What do you believe exists other than chemical and electrical systems? Edit: If you mean machine in a more colloquial sense that's fine. Let us first get clear if we mean machine in that sense or in sense of any physical mechanism.

If the question is what is there about us that's not covered by the body, we can mention things like: feelings, intentions, perceptions, acts of consciousness.

Or however else you want to divide up things that have to do with the mind.

Eliminativists/illusionists may completely deny such things. The rest can fall into many camps, some of them religious.

It's not like there are any surprising new parts. It's about how one chooses to interpret/conceive those we are familiar with.

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Post by donkeybeer »

tananan wrote: post #376
donkeybeer wrote: post #261

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What is the non machine part? What do you believe exists other than chemical and electrical systems? Edit: If you mean machine in a more colloquial sense that's fine. Let us first get clear if we mean machine in that sense or in sense of any physical mechanism.

If the question is what is there about us that's not covered by the body, we can mention things like: feelings, intentions, perceptions, acts of consciousness. Or however else you want to divide up things that have to do with the mind. Eliminativists/illusionists may completely deny such things. The rest can fall into many camps, some of them religious. It's not like there are any surprising new parts. It's about how…

And what part remains in that space after we have mapped all the brain signals and configurations corresponding to these feelings, intentions and perceptions? I don't feel the need to bring up absurd unproven concepts without waiting for more data. It'd be like me saying there is something aphysical behind Mercury's orbital perturbations if I were born before SR and GR were discovered (as an example). No point in jumping to such an argument without first exhausting more believable causes first. History is very strongly against any kind of bet in the aphysical.

My question to you would be, what do you think remains that's not a simple natural system if/after something like Neuralink is successfully established?

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Post by donkeybeer »

tananan wrote: post #376
donkeybeer wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the non machine part? What do you believe exists other than chemical and electrical systems? Edit: If you mean machine in a more colloquial sense that's fine. Let us first get clear if we mean machine in that sense or in sense of any physical mechanism.

If the question is what is there about us that's not covered by the body, we can mention things like: feelings, intentions, perceptions, acts of consciousness. Or however else you want to divide up things that have to do with the mind. Eliminativists/illusionists may completely deny such things. The rest can fall into many camps, some of them religious. It's not like there are any surprising new parts. It's about how…

Another different question to help me understand what you think of this. I think you agree with me, but just to clarify. A human being is independent of the process of creation right? If we created a molecule by molecule synthesis of a human being, you'd agree it is conscious and the same thing as a human created via typical reproduction, right?

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Post by abc123abc123 »

yoz-y wrote: post #243

Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.

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