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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #103

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> conscription by force Is there any unforced conscription? By definition conscription is compulsory.

its a question of degree. going to the barracks when you get called up by mail vs getting grabbed off the street, punched in the face and shoved into a bus headed for the training center.

But if you don't do #1, then #2 will happen involuntarily, right? So conscription ultimately = physically forced.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #99

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Ah, invasive extra paperwork (enforced by criminal penalties, at least in theory) for something they say on the surface they won’t actually need. So very german (hah)

In the United States, adult males have to sign up for the Selective Service for the same reason even though we haven't had conscription since the Vietnam War in the late 1970s(?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

> Annual budget $31.3 million (FY 2024)

If it hasn’t been used in 50 years, is there some other use for the registry or the organization or why hasn’t this been cut yet?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #344

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Ukraine has been violating that for young men since the start of its war.

And russia has been violating this too, along with other much worse things, as usual.

Factually untrue, Russian men can and do leave the country. Also, nice whataboutism bro.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #344

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Ukraine has been violating that for young men since the start of its war.

And russia has been violating this too, along with other much worse things, as usual.

Hard to feel the same sympathy for Russian men to be honest, I've seen many gallivanting abroad, whilst majority of Ukrainian men are stuck either in hiding in their own country or have been sent to the front lines. Only a few got out early or by paying bribes.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #100

Why does it exclude women? War is not just physical strength, but also logistics, operating vehicles, operating drones, nursing, and so on. All tasks that women are well capable of.

What about man that has gender woman in papers?

IDK about legal situation, but I know people who transitioned in both directions and they tell me that the hormones they take do make a big difference to strength and resiliance.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #344

“ Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.” - Universal Declaration of Human Rights https://www.ohchr.org/en/human-rights/universal-declaration/...

Ukraine has been violating that for young men since the start of its war.

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #344

“ Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.” - Universal Declaration of Human Rights https://www.ohchr.org/en/human-rights/universal-declaration/...

Ukraine has been violating that for young men since the start of its war.

Shockingly sexist policy.

And as per usual because its harmful to men no one cares.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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So, if some other country with different value system attacks your homeland with intention to effectively colonize it then you'd be okay with just letting it happen?

If you can’t get volunteers for a defensive war then that says a lot about how much the people living in your country value its continued existence.

The regime spent the past 50 years teaching everyone that their nation is just a source of shame and at best just a meaningless social construct, and that their culture and people's history is trash, that really nothing about it is worth saving.

And now the regime wants them to voluntarily sacrifice their lives for it.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the United States, adult males have to sign up for the Selective Service for the same reason even though we haven't had conscription since the Vietnam War in the late 1970s(?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

> Annual budget $31.3 million (FY 2024) If it hasn’t been used in 50 years, is there some other use for the registry or the organization or why hasn’t this been cut yet?

Keeping it around just in case the US encounters an existential threat. You never know when it may happen.
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