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Post by jimbokun »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #276
Aurornis wrote: post #108

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> Whereas you'd practically be a ghost before weight loss, random people will suddenly look you in your eyes, smile, even start conversations with you. I watched something like this happen in a friend, but as an outside observer I saw a different explanation: The period when he got into shape involved a lot of changes for the better in his life, including becoming more outgoing, motivated, and disciplined (necessary…

>For a while he tried to explain it all by his weight loss alone, but over time he realized it was an overall change in everything about the way he carried himself and presented himself to the world. All of what you're saying is just looks. Clothes, posture, etc. all matter and we all know some exceptions to the rule, but people make clothes look good and not so much the other way around. >Now that GLP-1s are everywh…

It’s a lot harder than in the past but I doubt that it’s “nearly impossible.”

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Post by someguynamedq »

mikkupikku wrote: post #115
torginus wrote: post #99

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I think most 'attractive' people put effort into their appearances, which might appeal to management types who evaluate work performance. Also, imo the best way to get a management position in my experience isn't to work hard, or be knowledgeable, but to be the least objectionable pick. This varies with country/company, with Euros usually being appearance focused, but in US companies, it's dudes in crumpled T-shirts…

Best way to get a manager position is to be a few inches taller than everybody else. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but pay attention to how often the boss is taller than everybody else on the team. Not always, but far more often than random chance can account for. (Incidentally, the best boss I ever had was barely 5 feet.)

Makes sense that the best boss would be shorter since they have to be better to compensate for the bias against them

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Post by anal_reactor »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #331
anal_reactor wrote: post #314

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Not necessarily. IMO the current demographic collapse can be mostly explained by people asking themselves whether they want children rather than just blindly putting penis into vagina.

No part of population growth was addiction to sex. Even people who didn’t want children would have children simply by wanting to fuck. That changed with birth control. People still blindly put penises into vaginas and now more than ever women are blindly letting in more and more penises when in the past they were much more guarded.

> No part of population growth was addiction to sex.

Bold claim.

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Post by buildbot »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #282
buildbot wrote: post #126

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Every professor has their own style, most of the ones I had were very open that office hours were a pretty great way to get help/more targeted hints on what to study. This isn’t in my opinion, a problem. Their goal is to educate you as best as possible in theory, via classes, homework, and office hours. Students who take the time and effort to attend office hours clearly want to at least pretend to be putting in extr…

In an astrophysics class I had in college , the professor called on a student to solve a problem, he got it wrong, and the professor said "if you would come to my office hours you would know how to solve this" - the students response was something along the lines of "sorry, my parents are crackheads so I need to work two jobs to pay for school"

With all empathy that sucks and is not fair - but should office hours be removed because one student could not attend?

Many of the professors I have worked with that I respect have different methods for helping these students- for example sending them an email after class, offering explicit direct help & advice. Or connecting them with a better job, or a research position.

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Post by jimbokun »

zer00eyz wrote: post #268
Revanche1367 wrote: post #87

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I feel this as a guy trying to lose weight very seriously this year. On one hand, I can lose weight but I will forever be short unless a miracle occurs lol. I’ve made my peace with being unattractive for the most part, the attempt to lose weight is primarily for health reasons.

> I will forever be short I'm 6'4" so not freakishly tall, but tall enough that people notice and for it to be a problem. 1. Im ever ones human ladder. About once a month someone will ask me to get something off a high shelf. 2. Shopping sucks. Wookie sized pants, Wookie sized shoes, Wookie sized shirts. It's a pain in the ass, I dont ever have anything trendy, and I pay more if they have it in my size. 3. Cars: Ther…

Sorry, but no you’re not getting sympathy for being tall. Nor should you. Life is noticeably easier for tall men, all things considered.

Sincerely, Fellow Tall Person

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Post by jimbokun »

willy_k wrote: post #213
yieldcrv wrote: post #195

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Alot of discussions from trans people have been very validating of gendered experiences as they get to objectively experience both and see the difference

Do you believe that they get an unadulterated perspective of both experiences? That they would be getting the experience of a woman rather than that of a trans woman?

Depends how well they pass and if the other person knew them pre-transition.

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Post by tock »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #361
tock wrote: post #354

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> Where do unintelligent people exist in your society? Everywhere? Both in rich and poor households. > For example can’t redo early childhood. So if that impacts your ability then it’s been impacted. Ah I thought the argument was more about genes(aka born smart) and not something like nutrition. I think a good thought experiment is Formula 1. Most top F1 racers come from super rich backgrounds. Does that mean that mo…

Which premise do you disagree with? 1. Financial and career success are correlated with good test skills. 2. Good test skills are strongly influenced by genetics or early childhood. If you agree with both then you expect some correlation between wealth and test performance.

I disagree that being born to rich parents == you have better genetics.

It's mostly privilege. And just being born in America is one of the biggest privileges wrt career and wealth.

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Post by wakawaka28 »

jimbokun wrote: post #371
wakawaka28 wrote: post #276

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>For a while he tried to explain it all by his weight loss alone, but over time he realized it was an overall change in everything about the way he carried himself and presented himself to the world. All of what you're saying is just looks. Clothes, posture, etc. all matter and we all know some exceptions to the rule, but people make clothes look good and not so much the other way around. >Now that GLP-1s are everywh…

It’s a lot harder than in the past but I doubt that it’s “nearly impossible.”

It is practically so much harder that I think it qualifies. How many rejections or years of effort do you think one must endure before he can reasonably say it's nearly impossible?

I'm not going to get into how stats are on my side, the dismal outcomes on dating apps are a reflection on the state of the overall market, etc. But these are far worse than most people expect.

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Post by jimbokun »

CalRobert wrote: post #254
willy_k wrote: post #213

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Do you believe that they get an unadulterated perspective of both experiences? That they would be getting the experience of a woman rather than that of a trans woman?

Apparently some make a distinction regarding whether they pass or not to address this. James Barnes is one person whose written about this https://www.newsweek.com/trans-man-broken-men-1817169

That’s a great article but it confuses me how the author shows affinity for so many feminine traits and stereotypically feminine interests, that I wonder what the draw or perceived appeal of living as a man was.

Maybe that’s in a different article.

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Post by jimbokun »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #150
TrackerFF wrote: post #68

People that have used to be fat, and then lost a lot of weight, will know how brutally different people will treat you. Whereas you'd practically be a ghost before weight loss, random people will suddenly look you in your eyes, smile, even start conversations with you. Some will of course argue that you losing weight will also make you more confident, and thus you become more approachable. I think there's a lot of bi…

Among all the other reasons that people have explained that this isn’t exactly correct a probably isn’t entirely attributed to just weight… I’ll make an opposite proposition. Perhaps we are evolutionarily programmed to avoid people with impulse control issues?

We are evolutionarily programmed to like attractive people, which excludes most visibly overweight people.
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