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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by rakovsky89 »

wk_end wrote: post #144
bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

The situation in the West Bank (and similar forces are at play in Gaza, too) remind me of what's wrong with American policing, at a far more extreme scale. The people charged with enforcing the peace deploy lethal force with near impunity at the slightest "provocation" (a child throwing a stone, a car driving too fast); I wouldn't be surprised if IDF forces deployed to the West Bank are trained much like American pol…

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Post by fourseventy »

marrone12 wrote: post #113
fourseventy wrote: post #100

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It's not collateral damage in the gaza war. This was a family in the west bank, where there is no hamas and no "war", that was gunned down in cold blood for no reason. Not even presenting a threat. I hope one day you are able to find compassion.

I go to HN to read about technology and startups. I don't want to read about Israel/gaza, etc, I get enough of that everywhere else in life. But I guess that makes me not a compassionate person.

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Post by rakovsky89 »

selcuka wrote: post #312
Agingcoder wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .

> many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence Not the OP, but many people do. I've changed my stance on similar topics multiple times in the past, based on new (to me, at least) evidence.

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Post by fud101 »

shell0x wrote: post #200

I think the middle eastern conflicts are a tragedy. That said, this story does not belong on HN. As others called out this is a tech community and while there is sometimes an overlap with politics, it should at least be somewhat related like mass surveillance or AI being used for war. HN is one of the most informative and least toxic communities and I’d appreciate if it would stay this way.

I disagree with this. The tech bros building these dystopian systems for big paychecks need to be informed somehow, this is the best way to reach them. They do care what their peers think of them and if we can reach their conscious in between bouts of agentic blogs and vibe coded hopes and dreams, then that is what we should do.

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Post by Noumenon72 »

bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

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Post by mmooss »

busterarm wrote: post #319
mmooss wrote: post #286

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The parent comment is just anti-Muslim hate. It has nothing to do with the topic.

Uh, I didn't say anything about Muslims at all. I just said that I was in Berlin.

The parent comment (to mine) is by nxor2; yours is the grandparent.

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Post by mcphage »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
ozlikethewizard wrote: post #307

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So what exactly did the 8 year old boy sat in the back of his parents car do wrong?

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> I cannot wait for "kid" to be a number one accessory to bring to a heist then.

And when that happens then we can have a conversation. But as it is, you’re justifying slaughtering a family because of a story you invented.

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Post by mcphage »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #366
jll29 wrote: post #124

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A certain amount of politics should/must be tolerated on HN, because you cannot compartmentalize technology, politics and morality. No-one, not even people who say they like technology but do not care about politics, should be able to live their life wihtout knowing that we live in a world where six-year old blind children are murdered with automatic assault rifles. (For the same reason that no-one should be able to…

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> Or much more most recently than WWII: not knowing that 1200 civilians were slaughtered by Hamas terrorists, whom palestinians did vote in power.

And if you want to go even more recently, check out what the IDF is doing in Gaza.

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