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Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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It was supposed to be decentralised though, meaning there would be no central party to pursue.

What makes you think a nation state level entity can't pursue in this case...?

It kinda of confuses me when use the term "nation state" instead of just "state". For example Canada is not a nation-state but surely they are powerful and important enough that they could also pursue this kind of case.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Just to say the obvious: the new CEO is a VC partner and former CEO of Automattic. That seems very bad, no matter how "committed" they are to the vision of Bluesky.

To be honest, I was never entirely on board with Jay's almost exclusively cryptocurrency background. I think she's done an acceptable job as CEO, but I have also felt that leadership at Bluesky was never good enough to see legitimate success. Today, Bluesky remains largely undermoderated and they have managed to bake in more toxic features Twitter ever did in such a short timespan. Its success is largely driven by ha…

> they have managed to bake in more toxic features Twitter ever did in such a short timespan.

Not arguing, just curious - what toxic features are you talking about?

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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What thunder? Mastodon has had nearly a decade to go mainstream and it's still mostly tech enthusiasts explaining to their friends what an 'instance' is. ActivityPub is fine if you enjoy your identity being held hostage by whatever random server admin decides to keep the lights on. Want to move servers? Hope you're cool with losing your followers. Want real account portability? Too bad. Want scalable search and flexi…

How many Bluesky servers are there?

This isn’t Mastodon so a “Bluesky server” isn’t a thing.

Mastodon is shaped like email so you have “servers” sending messages to each other.

Atproto is shaped more like RSS with aggregation. Everyone posts data to their hosting (which anyone could move at any time), and apps like Bluesky aggregate data from everyone’s hosting.

So a concept like “Bluesky server” is nonsensical. What you have is “atproto hosting” (which can be provided by Bluesky, by other communities, by other companies, or can be self-hosted — it’s all open source and you can even implement your own) and “Bluesky app” (of which there’s only one — but there are forks like Blacksky which fork the entire stack including the server). There also “other atproto apps” like https://leaflet.pub, https://tangled.org, etc, which have nothing to do with Bluesky.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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post #204

Just to say the obvious: the new CEO is a VC partner and former CEO of Automattic. That seems very bad, no matter how "committed" they are to the vision of Bluesky.

To be honest, I was never entirely on board with Jay's almost exclusively cryptocurrency background. I think she's done an acceptable job as CEO, but I have also felt that leadership at Bluesky was never good enough to see legitimate success. Today, Bluesky remains largely undermoderated and they have managed to bake in more toxic features Twitter ever did in such a short timespan. Its success is largely driven by ha…

> And I have yet to actually see a real use of ATproto that isn't just immediately blown out of the water by ActivityPub.

ActivityPub doesn’t remotely even try to solve problems solved by atproto. What are you talking about?

In short, atproto makes apps interoperable by default by decoupling data hosting from applications. This means that apps become projections of everyone’s data, and can embed and interpret typed data from each other. ActivityPub doesn’t offer anything close, which is why you don’t have projects like http://leaflet.pub, https://standard.site, https://tangled.org, https://semble.so in the AP ecosystem.

If you genuinely want to learn about atproto, I have two longreads for you:

- https://overreacted.io/open-social/

- https://overreacted.io/a-social-filesystem/

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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I was enjoying having one social network not run by horrid people. Maybe it's time to go back to IRC or something.

I guess I'm honored that you feel like we weren't horrid. I have gotten a very positive impression from Toni so far, fwiw.

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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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post #300

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BlueSky is vastly worse than Twitter/X now or ever was. It was a good idea, but it ruins the "community square" aspect when BlueSky has just become a total echo chamber. Twitter is still diverse, even if voices that were once banned now have bigger platforms. Now I'd rank BlueSky has a net negative for society. It's basically a DailyKos leaning miniblog with a small userbase. Things you would just used to find in com…

You rank Bluesky as a net negative for society and a rank what’s become ann alt-right propaganda service as diverse? Interesting. No thanks.

The difference is diversity of opinions. There is none on Bluesky. Anybody can voice their opinion on Twitter/X. On Bluesky you'll be quickly shun by the entire community or straight out banned for not agreeing with specific partisan talking points, no need to list them, it's similar to reddit editorial policies. If you deem Twitter an extremist social media, then Bluesky is even worse,as it just only allows one sort of extremism, one kind of ideology.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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The response was to someone commenting the discourse on Bluesky was "off putting" so they went back to Twitter. I wasn't touching on freedom of speech, just the relative quality of speech in both platforms. As a centralized service operating in Canada and the EU though, I do believe Twitter is legally required to remove certain kinds of hate speech. The qualification for removal might be debatable (e.g. "the Austrian…

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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Officer). Toni has been an advisor to us for years, and I personally recruited him to take over as CEO while I focus on new projects within the company. It's an honor to have him on board to lead us into this next stage of growth.

If there was an Internet Technology hall of fame, your work with atproto would qualify. One big innovation is to drag a large bank or Stripe on board to enable payments on the network. Good luck!

Why would Jay get the award when they didn’t actually lead or build such protocol?

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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This move came from Jay so that she could focus more on the atproto ecosystem and forward looking development. Personally, I'm happy for her. The CEO role gets extremely wrapped up in operations & org building, and as a technologist I'm not sure it would be for me. I've met with Toni a couple of times and he seems really excellent. He was CEO of Automattic (Wordpress) from 2006 to 2014, and that means a fair amount o…

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