>We have tried in good faith to reach an agreement with the Department of War
LMFAO
Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you an American? Do you understand that your safe easy life depends on a mostly autonomous nuclear deterrence capability maintained by the military you oppose? Deeply think about why you still have right to free speech, and what it takes to sustain those rights.
Answer the question instead of deflecting.
The posters question was itself a deflection - and your response is moral blackmail. Why don't you answer my question? Why are you deflecting? See how that works?
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#373Again, mass domestic surveillance of Americans is bad, otherwise it is okay. Disgusting.
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#374Hegseth is the, ultra unqualified, Secretary of Defense. Defense. JFC even when "pushing back" everyone is capitulating.
I think that choice of words to call them the Department of War and Secretary of War multiple times in that statement was very much intentional. And a point well made.
Interesting angle..
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#376Not to intentionally sidetrack the conversation, but when did we start calling service members 'warfighters?' I've been seeing it a lot lately, but don't remember ever really seeing it before. Do members of the military prefer this title?
https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4339 The reason that no one involved in the game's development objected to the word "warfighter" is that the U.S. Defense Department has used "warfighter" as a standard term for military personnel since the late 1980s or early 1990s: Thus Earl L. Wiener et al., Eds. Human Factors in Aviation, 1988 Warfighter is literally the Department of War's Amazonian or Googler or any othe…
Department of Defense*.
‘Department of War’ is merely an authorised second name for the department, but legally it remains the Department of Defense until/if Congress changes it.
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I understand. And given the heaviness of the situation I could have chosen a better way to phrase that I completely disagree with it being evidence that we're on the road to fascism.
What would have to occur, hypothetically, for you to conclude that the US is on the road to fascism?
Dictatorship. Control over media. No regard for human life.
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long can we push this narrative? It was a terrible situation and I can't imagine the minutes of complete fear she must have felt. I pray for her family. But to then draw a conclusion to say this is evidence that we are in some sort of fascist decline, because of this incident, takes away from the innocent lose of life. And greatly exaggerates the skill and aptitude of the killer. People spew the fascist narrative…
You have an unrealistic picture of what fascism looks like. Most people got to pick strawberries throughout the Spanish, Italian, and even German fascist periods. The problem isn't that fascism will kill all of us, but that you will not get to choose . If the regime decides that your city, your company, or your friends are an enemy, they will destroy you, and if your fellow strawberry-pickers bother to read about it…
When has this "regime" destroyed any company, city, or any of our friends? I feel this whole conversation is emotionally charged and its clouding reality. People are protesting. Media is not controlled by the government. Our courts are strong. There is no dictator.
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long can we push this narrative? It was a terrible situation and I can't imagine the minutes of complete fear she must have felt. I pray for her family. But to then draw a conclusion to say this is evidence that we are in some sort of fascist decline, because of this incident, takes away from the innocent lose of life. And greatly exaggerates the skill and aptitude of the killer. People spew the fascist narrative…
It's not because of one incident. And the fascist part of these incidents isn't just the killing, it's the official response to it. They immediately claim the victims are terrorists and assassins and suppress investigation of it. Let's not pretend this is just some sad accident.
Agreed the official responses to almost everything - killings, terrible policy, various files - has been horrible. That is the result of having an uncouth person as president.
Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
#380Not to intentionally sidetrack the conversation, but when did we start calling service members 'warfighters?' I've been seeing it a lot lately, but don't remember ever really seeing it before. Do members of the military prefer this title?
I’ve always heard this term in use from a defense contractor
>in use from a defense contractor
That's exactly it.
It's trade jargon from those in the industry that make more money off of full-blown war than merely maintaining extreme readiness for a more secure defense.