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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by gosub100 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #202
soperj wrote: post #6

> If only Bill Gates and Larry Summers had had my mom to go to for advice, they could’ve saved themselves a lot of grief. Doubt it would have changed anything for Bill. There's a pattern there and this is just a piece of that pattern.

Not to go full pizzagate conspiracy theorist, but, Epstein is just the most out in the open and famous tip of the proverbial iceberg. These people didn't stop being nonces because some of them got caught.

He was the access agent and the one procuring girls for powerful men. He would then produce blackmail and force the men to capitulate to his demands. He was a mossad operative.

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Post by krapp »

breuleux wrote: post #354
alphazard wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they did not. It's easier for a small number of people to coordinate, than a large number. The wealthy have about as much power as the entire middle class, but can wield it better because they are more nimble. That doesn't change the state of the negotiation, which is that cutting taxes for the middle class will also require cutting them for the wealthy. If you optimize for your own personal notion of fairness, or…

> It's easier for a small number of people to coordinate, than a large number. That's basically my main argument for replacing election-based democracy by lottery-based democracy. Electing the right representatives is a coordination problem in and of itself, a process which the wealthy are already quite adept at manipulating, so we might as well cut the middle man and pick a random representative sample of the popula…

Whomever controls the process that decides what a representative sample is and selects candidates is now the middleman.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by s5300 »

KoftaBob wrote: post #179
navigate8310 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What triggered Mossad to toss their best informant?

Him being in jail awaiting trial, which risked him exposing the details of the operation if he felt it could help him get a lighter sentence. If the choice for Mossad was either risk Epstein exposing that Israel was essentially running a state-sponsored underage sex trafficking ring, or kill him before he can do that, you know what they'd choose.

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by gosub100 »

decimalenough wrote: post #14
pixl97 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out Bill is just actually a piece of shit through and through

The kind of piece of shit who donates basically his entire fortune to charity? And actual charity at that, not Ellison style "Larry Ellison Research Foundation for Prolonging the Life of Larry Ellison and Getting Some Tax Breaks Along the Way".

The charity was cover for something. Just like the "Clinton foundation".

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Post by deepthaw »

prometheus76 wrote: post #321
palata wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they mean "taxation of the too rich" in that case. > moves power from the people to the government In a functioning democracy, the government is the people. If the government is against the people, it's not a functioning democracy. And needless to say, a non-functioning democracy is not a proof that the concept of democracy doesn't work.

The government is the majority of people. So the government very well can be against 49% of the people and it would still fit your definition. If 100 people were about to embark on a journey on a ship, what makes you think 51 of them know who should run the ship if none of them have ever even been on a ship?

Governance by democracy isn't about qualification, it's about legitimacy.

If the government ends up filled with incompetents that's a failure of the people that elected them.

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Post by fromMars »

KoftaBob wrote: post #179
navigate8310 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What triggered Mossad to toss their best informant?

Him being in jail awaiting trial, which risked him exposing the details of the operation if he felt it could help him get a lighter sentence. If the choice for Mossad was either risk Epstein exposing that Israel was essentially running a state-sponsored underage sex trafficking ring, or kill him before he can do that, you know what they'd choose.

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Post by SilverElfin »

whatever1 wrote: post #150

Power corrupts, end of story. Democracy (limited terms), taxation and anti-monopoly regulation are examples that show a path to cure the disease. Nobody should be trusted with too much power for too long.

Yep. It corrupts those people and makes them disconnected. Then they go on to do worse things. The only fix is to change tax policy to not allow billionaires. Redistribute wealth above some amount. One billion seems fine as a starting point.

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Post by Rzor »

jimbohn wrote: post #159
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #80

It would fit perfectly if Epstein was a Russian agent. - Where did he get his money from? - Who's interests are served by this whole dodgy setup? - The Trump connection. - The Trump Russia connection. Maybe I imagine but it all seems aligned.

As a European, I find it very funny to see how nobody in the US is willing to address the elephant in the room called Mossad. This looks more likely an israeli operation which sourced girls from russia and likely had the FSB as a customer/scratch my back I scratch yours/collab thing. I mean, most US politicians and the president seem to be on an "israel first" agenda.

>As a European, I find it very funny to see how nobody in the US is willing to address the elephant in the room called Mossad.

This is driving me up the wall. Look, I know part of this talk/accusation [about Mossad] is coming from Nazi/antisemitic circles, so people being hesitant to engage makes a bit of sense. But come on, it's not a stretch to consider. The idea that the US would let a Russian operation go unchecked like that is completely bonkers.

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Post by scruple »

soperj wrote: post #6

> If only Bill Gates and Larry Summers had had my mom to go to for advice, they could’ve saved themselves a lot of grief. Doubt it would have changed anything for Bill. There's a pattern there and this is just a piece of that pattern.

> Since you don’t care that much about money, they can’t buy you at least.

I get the sense that Bill does care about money, and so does Larry Summers, so Mom's advice probably wouldn't have done much there.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by ses1984 »

alphazard wrote: post #292
palata wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they mean "taxation of the too rich" in that case. > moves power from the people to the government In a functioning democracy, the government is the people. If the government is against the people, it's not a functioning democracy. And needless to say, a non-functioning democracy is not a proof that the concept of democracy doesn't work.

> I think they mean "taxation of the too rich" in that case. Everyone wants taxes to go up on everyone making more than them, and for their own taxes to go down. The problem is this is a collective negotiation, not a discussion about what to ask the genie for when we rub the lamp. If the middle class wants to decrease their own taxes (which is the political issue that objectively affects them the most, and how they l…

> Everyone wants taxes to go up on everyone making more than them

Everyone except about 90% of republican voters, aka temporarily poor millionaires

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