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Next year: LeGit !
"la forge" in french is feminine, it would need to be LaGitette
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France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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The French government built their own: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet
"built their own" wrapper yes (which is a very important piece of a end-to-end Zoom like product) But you can see: > Powered by [LiveKit]( https://livekit.io/ ) Fine since this is an open source product, but not full EU sovereignty of the software stack. Livekit could at any time change their license and drop support for the free open-source version like so many products have done in the past. If a EU entity forks it…
That might be true philosophically, but tactically it makes no sense to fork until a potential future license change. Why lose the free maintenance from upstream?
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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That's really not the issue. EU tech companies aren't getting big enough to the point where "potentially a monopoly" is even a problem, other than maybe Spotify.
They are not, but EU tech companies have to compete against US monopolies. And there are laws that prevent them from doing that. https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/#the-new-coalition
This blog post starts off with a long-winded, meandering rant. Do you have something more succinct and less rant-y to back up your assertion of
> And there are laws that prevent them from doing that.
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Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#374They named their video conference tool "Visio" ? lol
Meanwhile... Micro$lop: Aha! Sharpen your lawyers, mes amis!
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Patronizing rubbish. The EU builds plenty of EVs, rockets and fighter jets and has far more subway systems and public transport than the US. Europe is already great. It's why hundreds of thousands of Americans moved here in 2025. As for being a vassal: Trump was warned of the consequences of invading Greenland and he backed down immediately. Some vassal.
> It's why hundreds of thousands of Americans moved here in 2025. They should all give me their passports. I want in.
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Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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I work at Grist, the "tableur collaboratif" (collaborative spreadsheet) listed on the La Suite homepage. We're in the interesting situation of being both a NYC-based company, and open source software the French gov has adopted and is helping to develop. Grist is mostly a node backend. So it is a complicated story. The key is having code the gov can review and trust and run it on sovereign infrastructure. Grist https:…
wow it reminds me of Microsoft Access, a great piece of software in terms of rapidly building an application! Does grist have forms?
Form support is touted on the homepage: https://www.getgrist.com/forms/
For what it's worth, which isn't much because this is probably outdated: I remember trying grist a few years ago and leaving mildly unimpressed with form support (I think because I was hoping to have image upload in the forms and that wasn't supported yet).
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Zoom isn't buggy I wouldn't say. It's really good.
That's been my personal experience, but colleagues on Linux are continually fighting it.
I gave up on the native Zoom client on Linux right away, it was completely broken. It worked well enough on a browser to get through the project though.
Same with Teams, the video calls work fine on a browser. You just can't use any background pictures or effects.
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Failing to make xenophobic choices when it comes to...enterprise software, is the issue? The US has spent tens of trillions defending Europe indirectly subsidizing social policies despite this the US has persistently been unpopular with Europeans because, obviously, they are a political target for domestic politicians (btw, you see this almost everywhere...if country A gives country B subsidies, you will almost alway…
Stop with this nonsense. You know it is false. USA is not defending Europe from anyone.
It's crazy that this nonsense is still promoted - both by Republicans and Democrats, and leaders in Europe. WTF is wrong with people.
If Americans are stupid enough to buy into the military-industrial conspiracy that we have to spend 10% of our GDP on defense, then they get what they deserve. The EU is right to call BS on that whole paradigm.
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Gotta give them props for all the English. I know that can't have been easy. Now they just need to change the name so it's not so obviously French, and invite collaboration from the other large EU countries. I wonder how many Dutch or German will think of "La Suite Numerique" as an EU-wide office suite.
> Gotta give them props for all the English. I know that can't have been easy. Why not? Plenty of French people speak English at a native level.
As a francophone, I can tell you that the vast majority doesn't.
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Shame that so many EU citizens do not see the ramifications of theirs . EU citizens have elected ineffective leaders for decades -- leaders that ignored the potential to set up homegrown cloud providers, software suites or tech companies. They have elected leaders who were until very recently heavily dependent on Russian energy. As a result, EU dependence on US tech is near-total. I remember hearing a few months ago…
Europe's main strategy these days seems to be blaming others instead of looking at themselves. For example, they blame America for their own issue of lacking tech companies, despite Europe taking credit for having fewer work hours, more 'equitable' societies, etc. They blame China for their own issue of lacking domestic manufacturing, despite their pride at having strong unions, supposedly good labor protections, and…
> They blame India for the bogey of 'buying Russian oil', instead of blaming themselves for being the LARGEST purchaser of refined oil products from India. As if India, one of the hottest countries on the planet, actually needs heating oil
India and the EU have managed to work as adults and find a way to sign an FTA [0] and Defense Pact [1] last week. The adults in the room found a way to compromise and turn a zero sum game into a stag hunt and anyone repeating tired tropes like above is either extremely uninformed or a bot.
[0] - https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-cou...
[1] - https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/security-and-defence-eu-and-...