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Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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I actually did this with my teenage neighbor. He was learning electric guitar at hours the building had rules against. Hours I was studying throughout because of said building rules.

Whenever he switched his amp on, his landline would ring. Whenever he loudly stomped toward the phone, his landline would stop ringing.

Took three afternoons, but he learned it.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #193

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I can relate to this very much. A city guy, no one could understand my (also) 20 years of complaining about neighbors with loud music, slamming doors, making noise after midnight, etc etc. I lived on top floors, and I even spent a fortune living in a luxury building that was newly built, hoping sound insulation was higher end. The problem is that bass music travels through everything. I suffered from being woken up i…

> The problem is that bass music travels through everything. It’s not just bass tones—low-frequency vibrations travel through everything. I live in a five-story pre-WWII building, and sometimes, when a neighbor runs their washing machine early on a Saturday morning, I don’t even hear the spin cycle. I just feel it, lying in bed trying to squeeze in a little more sleep. It’s an odd sensation, not painful, but definite…

Can’t they put those damper things?

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Not saying it's right for everyone, but I moved off-grid where my nearest neighbor is 5km away. 20 years in an apartment in the city was enough for me, as I grew older I realized there are too many things outside of my control if I want silence and peace of mind. Sound pollution is a very real baseline stressor.

Triple-glazed windows do work wonder. I live atm in a modern construction with triple-glazed windows everywhere. Now it's not the city per se, more like the posh suburbs, but it's still an apartment, with neighbors. But you don't hear them, nor do you hear the cars outside. That said TFA's author is a real dick and that is seen in the way he writes. You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pav…

> That said TFA's author is a real dick and that is seen in the way he writes. You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pavlovian way. He obviously has got an inferiority

Sure you do, if:

1) your neighbour is an absolute cunt

2) their parents failed to raise a responsible human being

3) law won’t protect you

4) you can’t easily move

5) you don’t use violence

Then you have all the rights to teach the cunt some manners.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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> You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pavlovian way. Sure you do. Punishment of bad behavior is a basic social rule. Words were exchanged. All they had to do was listen, understand and stop the bad behavior. Had they done that, things would not have escalated beyond a polite conversation. Unfortunately, people often choose overt disrespect instead. They choose to challenge the other guy t…

> If anything they should be glad the punishment was as civilized as this. There are many places in this world where it could easily escalate to actual violence. Agreed. But there’s a reason that guy apparently felt no worries about closing the door in OP’s face. Perhaps the likelihood of it escalating was slim. And there’s a reason why OP didn’t knock again. In the resolution you propose in another comment, deviance…

> But there’s a reason that guy apparently felt no worries about closing the door in OP’s face. Perhaps the likelihood of it escalating was slim. And there’s a reason why OP didn’t knock again.

Most likely because they’re entitled westerner who grew up with laws that protect against physical violence, but not mental abuse.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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> Perhaps the likelihood of it escalating was slim. Not as slim as he had hoped. People feel free to close the door on others because they are used to a life without violence. Their implicit thinking is "I'm not even gonna consider what this other person wants because what's he gonna do about it? Nothing." They think there is no way they will be held accountable for their actions. That's magical thinking. People real…

Who hurt you?

That’s how things are done in Eastern/South hemispheres. There’s a lot of things about respect from those parts of the world that Westeners don’t understand.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #351

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Been around for awhile: https://www.holosonics.com

"a beam of directed ultrasound that delivers audio ten times more isolated " ah, so this is what they used in embassy attacks

probably not the same company. It's a well–documented phenomenon.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

#377

Ugh, this reminds me of a neighbor of a family member. They have a backyard, and sometimes, it is pleasurable to sit, grill, bbq, etc. in a backyard, particularly in the summer months. You know, normal suburban stuff. The neighbor has some sort of device that emits extremely loud, extremely high-pitched (but not ultrasonic; or at least, not exclusively ultrasonic) noise. The family member thinks its some sort of anti…

These are commercially produced as teenager deterrents to "prevent loitering" (whatever that means).

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #228

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The atmosphere above Christchurch, NZ tends to form layers in winter that trap the smoke and make this worse, and new fireplaces have been restricted to clean-burning log burners and dry wood by law. It seemed like the biggest change in air quality in recent years came from the tragic earthquakes in 2010 and 2011 knocking down all the unreinforced-masonry chimneys, though.

Why would anyone burn anything but dry wood in their indoor fireplace...

Because all they have is wet wood and they want to light the fire.

If you had dry wood to hand of course you'd use that in preference.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #96

This is the stupidest nitpick, but it's not really Pavlovian conditioning (as mentioned in the last paragraph) but rather operant conditioning. Pavlovian, or classical conditioning is the triggering of a biological response after a neutral stimulus (ring a bell before feeding each time and the dog will salivate when it hears the bell even if there's no food anywhere nearby). Operant conditioning is where the agent le…

this is why I read hn

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #192

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People should just make better fires. A good fire doesn't release much, if any smoke. It burns it up instead. A good woodstove is worth the money.

The stink remains even for efficient fires. Smoke is often correlated of course. I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand which gets winter smog,. The city council enforces rules and woodburners need to meet strict emission standards. They regularly tighten the rules so that if you want a woodburner you need to replace it every 15 years or so. But they do still smell. The rules have radically improved the air quality here an…

>They regularly tighten the rules so that if you want a woodburner you need to replace it every 15 years or so.

What's that supposed to achieve? Also what do you do if you build your own woodburner/fireplace?

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