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Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

_heimdall wrote: post #361
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The population is accepting it right now. 40% of the people still approve of everything Trump is doing. If you have 10 friends and you ask them what they want to eat for dinner and 6 say let’s go to a Mexican restaurant and 4 say let’s kill Bob and eat him, you still need to worry about your friend group. Right this second ICE agents are killing people with impunity and police for the longest have had qualified immun…

What poll have you seen that asks people to approve of everything any president does? I live in a very red part of the country, and in a very red, rural area that voted ~90% for Trump. I don't know anyone that is okay with everything he has done. Some take issue with Venezuela, some with the handling of the Epstein files or the federal budget. Some don't like sabre rattling over Greenland. Most people I know that do…

Trump’s approval rating is still around 40%

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #369
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The population is accepting it right now. 40% of the people still approve of everything Trump is doing. If you have 10 friends and you ask them what they want to eat for dinner and 6 say let’s go to a Mexican restaurant and 4 say let’s kill Bob and eat him, you still need to worry about your friend group. Right this second ICE agents are killing people with impunity and police for the longest have had qualified immun…

There are so many rulings, just in the last 25 years even, where SCOTUS has reaffirmed that warrantless search is not okay. This one is very much in line with the topic, in fact. Carpenter v. United States (2018) This country has never been what you're saying. We have some over policing happening. That seems to come and go in every country and doesn't say anything by itself about what a county is about, especially wh…

As people are getting shot by ICE today.

Today on HN on the front page there was an article about someone being forced to use their biometric security to unlock their phone.

And then to say this country has never been what I’m saying is to ignore Jim Crow, sundown towns that were prevalent into the mid 80s, etc.

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Post by hpdigidrifter »

lrvick wrote: post #368
jmward01 wrote: post #90

"and notify the user when such attempts are made to their device." We aren't going to remove the security state. We should make all attempts to, but it won't happen. What needs to happen is accountability. I should be able to turn off sharing personal information and if someone tries I should be notified and have recourse. This should also be retroactive. If I have turned off sharing and someone finds a technical loo…

I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Pardon my skepticism but I find it hard to believe you can actually participate in western society without choosing to have a government mandated tracking device?

Maybe you live somewhere this is possible but it's definitely not in the developed world

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Post by sykseh »

If you're worried about your position being exposed, don't carry a mobile phone, or any "connected" device for that matter - including wifi

NB: same applies for NB-IOT. NBB: this has actually SAVED lives source: I use to work as a core network archictect for tier1 carriers

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Post by CalRobert »

lrvick wrote: post #368
jmward01 wrote: post #90

"and notify the user when such attempts are made to their device." We aren't going to remove the security state. We should make all attempts to, but it won't happen. What needs to happen is accountability. I should be able to turn off sharing personal information and if someone tries I should be notified and have recourse. This should also be retroactive. If I have turned off sharing and someone finds a technical loo…

I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Do you hit issues around things like 2fa, online banking?

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Post by CalRobert »

Zetaphor wrote: post #366
voidfunc wrote: post #349

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Idealist views like this get us nowhere either tho. The reality is somewhat more murky. On a long enough time horizon your point makes sense, we might be able to get rid of the security state by slowly chipping away at ig over hundreds or thousands of years. Most of us are going to be dead in about 40 years tho. Security state isn't going anywhere in that timeframe.

I'm curious to hear someone explain why you're being downvoted

Maybe the dead in forty years comment. Though considering accelerating climate collapse and the possibility of nuclear conflict it’s not completely unreasonable in my view.

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Post by taurath »

hpdigidrifter wrote: post #376
lrvick wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I turned off all cell carrier tracking 5 years ago. 100% of it. By canceling my cell phone subscription. I know I know, I must be amish, I have heard it all. But I run two tech companies, travel, have a family, and do most of the things most around here probably do other than doom scrolling. So much more time in my own head to think.

Pardon my skepticism but I find it hard to believe you can actually participate in western society without choosing to have a government mandated tracking device? Maybe you live somewhere this is possible but it's definitely not in the developed world

Runs 2 tech companies - the basic promise of the US is when you're rich you can do whatever the hell you want because you can pay people to handle stuff for you.

But also, one doesn't always need a phone - phones can die, signal is not gauranteed. What are your "must have" things that require one to have a smart phone to participate? Assume the poster has a home phone, laptop, and credit card.

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