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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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This is building an interesting case for those that say that the rest of the world can not build successful competitors to US entities: they can, but then they get taken away. I wouldn't use TikTok, but I find the whole situation a bit strange, ostensibly the rest of the world has a capability problem, but then when they are successful that can't left to stand.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Nuts that the whole company is in on it. Missing such a huge story is something that rank and file engineers would notice. But nobody is saying anything. Perhaps on the tiktok Blind?

You need remarkably few engineers in the loop to actually pull a thing like this off (if it is/was true).

Implement the filter? Yeah that's like one guy. But then all the internal dashboards and experiments have this big obvious miss that everyone sees

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, because TikTok is the only way people in the US can access information.

No, they also access information through Facebook owned by Trump ally Zuckerberg, X owned by Trump doner and DOGE former official Musk, or via media organisations like CBS who have recently had their editorial standards changed to be more friendly to the regime. It's fine though people can here about the regime through neutral pundits like Jimmy Kimmel, who definitely hasn't come under any pressure to comply with the…

We were so naive in the 2000s. 'Tech will democratize everything' forgetting they will just flood us with bullshit so that nothing means anything.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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How is TikTok able to screen this en masse? Are they going after tags? Political issues aside, I am really interested in the technical background in this.

The only thing I could come up with, assuming this isn’t a technical glitch, is that TikTok already had the infra to silence anything they want on the platform and as soon as the keys were handed over they turned that filter up to 100%

Sure, but are they running audio recognition and image recognition models on each upload just to classify it?

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post #348

I will save this for the future, when people complain about Chinese open models and tell me: But this Chinese LLM doesn't respond to question about Tianmen square.

Currently, Tiktok US is owned by US Companies

That's the GP's point.

At this stage it's the kettle calling the pot black.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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It feels like federated networks with open-sourced feed algorithms are the best path forward. If AI removes any technical limitations, and automates content management, what's stopping a content creator from owning what they create and distributing it themselves? How can centralization continue to survive?

Beyond federated systems, P2P systems seem to have a strong advantage here in identifying bad actors. Ranking posts/comments by the exponential of inverse IPAddress-post-frequency would solve bad actors posting behind VPNs/proxies like evil bot farms / state actors and marketers. Real users have their own IP address, and IP addresses are expensive like $20-50 a month which would make mocking traffic an extremely expe…

> Ranking posts/comments by the exponential of inverse IPAddress-post-frequency

Doesn't this just incentivize posting a bunch of comments from your residential proxy IP addresses to launder them? This smells like a poor strategy that's likely to lead to more spam than not. Also, everyone has to start somewhere so your legit IP addresses are also going to seem spammy at first.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you're in agreement with the parent - outside the US, people see content that reflects poorly on the US, and which is blocked for US citizens

The painful to answer question is whether the intention is to block the spreading of lies or the spreading of truth?

When you have a personality disorder like NPD, you'll believe to your core that every criticism of you is a lie.

When you're in an abusive relationship they say intentions don't matter, only impact does. Because victims often focus on the intentions of their abuser and stay in the cycle of abuse.

Let me repeat it, intentions don't matter, only impact does.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently, Tiktok US is owned by US Companies

that's exactly why I said, I am going to save this. Then I will ask: what about TikTok US owned by US companies censoring anti-ICE and anti-Israel narrative, do they have freedom of speech?

[Let's simulate the discussion for old times sake.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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