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If you say so
Psst, I'm not alone saying it...
So am I. The number of people repeating a lie doesn't make it true.
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Okay, but now you’re running a country-scale VPN service in Russia or whatever, and somebody has to pay for it. Or you have to acquire a botnet, again to handle the internet of a whole country. These are non-trivial barriers to overcome, and simply having transit to Russia does not solve them.
You know they can run NAT at the border right? Iran -> Russia -> the rest of the Internet. Russians would never re-advertise Iranian routes, and because they're all such good pals they could let them use whatever segment, so all Iranian traffic would simply appear as Russian traffic to the rest of the Internet, using normal residential subnets of which there are plenty. No need to ever involve the commercial VPN prov…
But also Wireguard VPNs are also trivial to spin up and operate at scale, especially since what’s being discussed here is Internet access just for the elites which is a small fraction of the entire population. But yeah, lots and lots of ways to make this work if you don’t get everyone else to go along with your embargo.
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A republic with a supreme religious leader who actually decides everything, that fakes elections and has a council of religious leaders that can disqualify any candidate that's without even talking about killing 30,000-40,000 citizens for wanting their rights > It subsidize basic needs of its poorer citizens, such as fuel, bread, housing, education and healthcare. I'd start with supplying basic needs like water and e…
you're absolutely "Right". Iran should hold as many elections as Saudis or UAE, have as many coups by generals as in Egypt and Pakistan, or build as many American military bases as Jordan and Turkey to be considered a republic by your types.
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#375I've been moderately happy this morning to find out I can open hackernews. Also Gmail is working. After attempting to get bridges using email and configuring an dozen of them I got 100% connection but then it disconnected without me being able to connect to anything. I would assume some sort of tunneling must be possible cause the services available are varied and not limited to a few websites (We only had access to…
I there anything the outside world can do? Like are the people relying on https://snowflake.torproject.org/ and adding bandwidth there actually makes a difference?
If you're an American, demand radio free gets all it's funding back to 2024 levels, for a start. I read that people in Iran have relied on that service for a long time.
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The way you just call them all militants using human shields is truly amazing. From reddit by same username I can see that you're an American living in Israel also so it matches up.
Did you also see I was born in Baghdad and know first hand what actual ethnic cleansing is?
Qatar spent $20B on education alone in the US. China Russia and Qatar have collectively brainwashed millions of Americans and Europeans.
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The way you just call them all militants using human shields is truly amazing. From reddit by same username I can see that you're an American living in Israel also so it matches up.
> an American living in Israel lmao, every. single. time.
Did you also see I was born in Baghdad and know first hand what actual ethnic cleansing is?
Qatar spent $20B on education alone in the US. China Russia and Qatar have collectively brainwashed millions of Americans and Europeans.
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#378I don't see any drawbacks on this. Recent protests demonstrated that: a) protests can and will be crushed by the government forces and people will be ultimately defeated; b) people have no means to force government to enable back freedoms; c) control is much easier with no internet available. Russia is on the same path by providing white-list only internet access "during Ukrainian attacks" and a bit longer every time…
Drawbacks are that your population loses contact with progress. Your people become less skilled for the modern world. That's fine if you want a country of agrarian peasants or factory-working drones, but it cripples your country if it's in a technological arms race. I mean, North Korea does manage to produce rockets and nuclear warheads. They aren't exporting technology, though.
I wouldn't be so sure about this. I think people who don't give a shit about society or politics or human rights abuses and only care about advancing cool technology can participate in and drive progress.
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Psst, I'm not alone saying it...
So am I. The number of people repeating a lie doesn't make it true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
Or is it all made up? Did Israeli official say on TV they want to starve Gaza, or not?
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That's freedom of market. You need to sue your ISP for contract breach, they said they'd provide internet access and didn't.
If you have to sue your provider just to get a normal service then society has already failed. I can only imagine you're an American for litigation to be your go-to solution.
Note, litigation being the "go to" solution of the American system is intended. The civil courts were basically supposed to solve all problems. Which is why they work great for rich people.
All the memes about America being "litigious" are intentional. It is incredibly difficult to seek preventative justice in the US. The intent is that you must be harmed first and then be made right.
It's a system dreamed up by wealthy aristocrats who were openly against slavery but owned people anyway and assholes who had the audacity to claim the constitution was "We the People" even though it excluded most people and was drafted entirely without authority to do so (defensible, the articles of confederation were utterly failing) and purposely built a system where people didn't vote for representation (because they didn't want a society representative of average people) and the few idealists who were far too stupid or gullible to go along with all of this. Tons of them were lawyers.
We don't, for example, have an ombudsman I can go to and complain about a business maybe not following the law and get the government to essentially be my advocate. We instead are forced to sue that company, and prove in court, with vastly unequal resources, that we deserve remedy.
Our judicial system is also clearly preferential to corporations over people, and refuses to hold corporations to justice, even when they have been objectively found wrong!
The jury of her peers awarded the McDonalds hot coffee lady $2.7 million (explicitly "two days of coffee revenue") because there was clear negligence and refusal to act safely after burning tens of other people and being outright warned about their coffee temperature, and the judge decided to unilaterally reduce that payout to half a million! He said the payout "must be reasonably related to the injury" and admitted Mcdonalds had acted recklessly and caused the injury and acted with "wanton and callous behavior" and the judge STILL reduced the clearly valid jury verdict by a huge amount! God forbid a company actually pay for their clear and reckless disregard!