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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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I don’t think that video proves anything definitively fwiw. It doesn’t capture any harm to the officer nor any heightened or escalating behaviors afterwards. Nor does it show an officer in a using force inappropriately. If you think it does you are overlaying your own biases onto the video.

like I said before, I agree that its unfortunate event and how it ends but you must also understand why this is happening in the first place she is obstructing the law enforcement. for what ???? defending illegal that defrauding tax payer billions of dollar ???? like if you still defending that shit then I guess there is treason that happening

She had a car across a single lane of a state road.

Traffic was not obstructed as footage shows vehicles passing before the shooting.

She was not obstructing ICE in detaining an immigrant.

At the worse it was state traffic offense. Something ICE has no, nada, zero, jurisdiction over.

Traffic infringements are not treason, and ICE _should_ have deferred to state LEOs.

They did not.

They acted like untrained clowns. One officer told her to leave, a second told her to get out of the car while reaching into her car w/out authority to do so.

In countries that are serious about public law and order it is clear that the fault lies with the ICE agents.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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like I said before, I agree that its unfortunate event and how it ends but you must also understand why this is happening in the first place she is obstructing the law enforcement. for what ???? defending illegal that defrauding tax payer billions of dollar ???? like if you still defending that shit then I guess there is treason that happening

She had a car across a single lane of a state road. Traffic was not obstructed as footage shows vehicles passing before the shooting. She was not obstructing ICE in detaining an immigrant. At the worse it was state traffic offense. Something ICE has no , nada, zero, jurisdiction over. Traffic infringements are not treason, and ICE _should_ have deferred to state LEOs. They did not. They acted like untrained clowns. O…

> At the worse it was state traffic offense. Something ICE has no, nada, zero, jurisdiction over

And to underline: the historic problem with thuggery is the delegitimization of law enforcement.

Good was given conflicting instructions, none of which seem to have been legally issued. If you’re going to be shot and cursed out when stopped by the cops, at a certain point, the rational action becomes disarming by any means your security threat and then dealing with the legal consequences later. (If I’m being held up at gunpoint for no reason, I’m not considering the law when weighing my options for escape or disarming my opponent.)

Miller wants to invoke the Insurrection Act. The ICE agents are just as stupid and pawnish in this game as the left-wing agitator.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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> there are many militias with itchy trigger fingers all over the political spectrum here That’s still not a civil war in the conventional sense. If it gets entrenched and coördinated it could be come something we’ll debate, e.g. the Troubles. But insurgency != civil war.

The devil lives in the fine print, always.

> devil lives in the fine print

Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Civil wars are large-scale mobilizations. That’s what makes them uniquely destructive. Insurgencies are also destructive, but in a categorically-different way.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Take heed, Americaneez -- and prepare, because this may be in your future sooner than prediction markets would have you believe [1]. LoRa mesh networking seems like the runner-up, but vague reports indicate (Meshtastic) doesn't handle crowds well. I think Bitchat can use Meshtastic, so a LoRa radio paired with a phone could be a base for not just texting individuals, but community messaging. 1: https://polymarket.com…

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

Several civil wars aren't known as such until long after

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Ehhhh... To me Briar has great potential that is dwarfed by limitations... It's trying to be sort of like FireChat [1] but with less or subpar features... For real, someone should make a fire chat OSS project with some proprietary E2EE on top of the the OSS one based on Signal protocol. Maybe add some duress mode on top

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChat

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Not gonna do much of the gov turns violent.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Here's a funny example of making it harder to find: https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178

>the more people who use it, the more robust and far-reaching and reliable it gets. I was under the opposite impression, that meshtastic's whole problem is that it doesn't scale well at all.

Fair, meshcore is supposedly better for that.

Personally I just using it as a transport layer for Reticulum. Slow and finicky but easier to link distant nodes.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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I don't think it's going to be military killing a Americans. As of now it more looks like federal government. Nevertheless, sure, in the rural areas, but less so in the cities, reflections and bending of the waves make it much harder, and a single repeater with solar panel and battery could plausibly be made under $50.

They are being made. I have a four node network already in my suburb. There is a software project that is written in Python that essentially turns lorawan nodes into BBSs similar to briar.

That's a great news!

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Meshtastic works on commercial frequencies. If they block those then a good number of non-wifi/bluetooth devices will just stop working. Including, but not limited to: garage door openers, some (older) car key fobs, some RC equipment, wireless weather sensors, remotely readable metering devices (electricity, water) and a crapton of other things.

Nah. The citywide meshtastic grids that exist presently operate on one single frequency citywide. If you shut off the internet and jam that frequency, nobody can talk to anyone else to coordinate about a new frequency (which is then also just trivially jammed).

And then every single other device on that frequency is also useless

Is the pain of that worth disabling communication?

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