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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Why can’t Microsoft employees learn on the job? When I joined a (non-Microsoft) BigTech company, I was expected to learn C++ and internal libraries and tools within a couple months while working on newbie projects. The company recouped that investment many times over.

That can work if you're not expecting to be fired on a whim in one of those 20k+ layoffs when suddenly you have a skill no one seeks while you have not grown in the other area the market wants.

There are still plenty of C++ jobs available.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Microsoft has the resources to train people.

But does any junior want to learn C++ Win32? You want to learn something that leads to a long-term career development path, not a sunsetting technology.

> But does any junior want to learn C++ Win32?

I'm pretty sure Microsoft can pay them enough to be happy to learn it.

> You want to learn something that leads to a long-term career development path, not a sunsetting technology.

This seems like such an odd take when web frameworks seem to be obsolete almost as soon as you start using them. C++ has and will continue to be around for a very long time.

This is just the result of bad leadership at Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!

This. It was infuriating to find Notepad got updated to a bloated app with rich text and Copilot. It's so different, it just should have been another program. The whole reason I use Notepad is because it's a simple, dumb, fast, predictable program. If I wanted the rich text, I would use any of the numerous other options! And for the kicker, the update made it forget my font settings.

Wasn't Wordpad the rich text editor on Windows?

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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I'm now even using wine & proton for it. Thanks to Valve only very few games don't work. And it's not that i don't like windows, it is just too damn slow for me. And no. I do not want to upgrade my gear every 2 years or so

All the games that "don't work" are the games that PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAY! It's always hardcore multiplayer games with the actual crowd. Using linux for gaming is a great way to continue down the path to becoming a recluse.

So if you don't play popular multiplayer games you're a recluse?

Plenty of people play single player games, and simply socialize outside of games...

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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MacOS is a buggy mess, and it's also pretty slow lately. If you need full Office for work, your best bet is probably still Windows.

One would think multi-monitor support is the hardest thing in the universe to solve. My Linux desktop has very bad multi-monitor support, but hey, it's Linux. My $2K Macbook Pro has, somehow, even worse multi-monitor support, so bad that sometimes the productivity of an external display feels not worth the hassle of plugging it in and wrestling with it. Besides that no problems with MacOS, it feels snappy to me and O…

I've had a good multi monitor experience in Pop!_OS with the COSMIC desktop. Not sure exactly how it compares to other desktop environments though.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Ah, an opportunity to call upon Hacker News, tech support of last resort… Someone please tell me if there’s a trick to making the Windows snipping tool faster. I press Win+Shift+S to activate the tool for capturing a region. It takes about 2 seconds to load. I draw the rectangle. Then it takes about 2 seconds to finish capturing. That is 4 infuriating seconds for something that should be (and I’m sure used to be!) vi…

Win+PrtScr takes an instant screenshot. Win+Shift+PrtScr selects an area first.

Are you sure about that second one?

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Try running windows 11 on old CPUs, or machines without secure boot / TPM 2.0.

> Try running windows 11 on old CPUs, or machines without secure boot / TPM 2.0. The more relevant test is the reverse: running Windows XP and apps of that era on modern hardware. It will work perfectly. The same cannot be said of 2000-era Mac software.

That's an academic use case rather than something a lot of people would like to do.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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I had a similar experience when helping a friend's parent with an absolutely ancient laptop from like 2007, which which had a crappy Celeron, 256 MB of RAM, and Widnoes Vista. The damn thing was shockingly performant. We have been played for absolute fools.

I don't believe that. Can Vista even run with just 256MB of RAM?

I believe him that Vista was shockingly performant on an old laptop. And that is the point he is making.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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The fact that, on expensive hardware, I can hit windows+r and start typing before the run box renders/loads is staggering, it beggars belief. Im generally a microsoft shill, but theyre really on the down hill slope. windows 11 is truly a masterpiece of changes no one asked for or wants, Teams is the least reliable piece of business software I've ever seen. New outlook does not have feature parity with old outlook and…

At work employees generally use okay machines, not great but still at least 3GHz i5 processor with 16GB of ram etc. and they only run an ERP client and a browser with a few tabs. Sometimes, I click on the windows button and it legit takes 3-4 seconds for windows to render the start menu that only has the program list, nothing else, just the list of programs. These machines with their 6/8 or so cores can do tasks at t…

The most common issue anyone around were I work has when their computer is running slow is available memory. Windows 10 -> 11 has seen 16GB go from more than enough for anything other than power user tasks to barely enough to use the full array of standard office software, all with no actual improvement or meaningful change to the standard user experience. Going from 7 -> 10 at least made it so that you did not need to download your entire OneDrive and attached SharePoint libraries.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Back when people customized screensavers, you would put the .scr file (a regular exe) in the Windows directory, and it would populate the list of screen savers? I'm guessing that's no longer a thing in the name of security theater.

Not so much security theater as a large number of exploits were disguised as .scr files as it was easy to trick a user into downloading one and then it would run with full system access

Restrict .scr to run as an unprivileged user without network or filesystem access, that always launches the system login/unlock on exit?

This seems better than having a program that does random web requests to put ads on the lock screen.

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