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Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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> Maybe the government should make up their own They have, public sans, courtesy of USWDS, and it does distinguish between l and I with a little hook/spur on lowercase el https://public-sans.digital.gov/ https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Public+Sans?preview.text=1...

Is USWDS still a thing? I thought they were DOGED out of existence.

I think the whole US is being DOGED out of existence tbh.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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As the administration steps back from global affairs, it seems the State Department is searching for direction. Rubio would go like - we’re done with managing world affairs via the NSS, what should we do next? Let’s change the font for a new perspective!

> it seems the State Department is searching for direction I would argue that it seems more like the State Department is searching for distraction moreso than direction. From the murders, theft, and the epstien files.

which murders? are we talking about ICE or Venezuela or something else?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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There's no irony in that: different medium. The Dutch dev of Calibri commented on the history [1]. He makes a couple of good points, nuances. The main one I liked is related to your premise: it was that the Times New Roman font was optimized for printing newspapers whereas his successor was meant for computer screens. Ultimately, IMO this is just bullying people with bad eyesight and dyslexia (and said bullying I can…

> He had special glasses with a special lens to read. Bifocals, I'm guessing.

Many people with MS get diplopia, and so need prismatic lenses to help with the double vision.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Calibri was supposedly easier to read by people with disabilities. While this itself is debatable, that's not the reasoning behind the font switch. The mere attempt at making life easier for disadvantaged people is labeled DEI and as such cannot be tolerated by this administration.

Nope- times new roman just looks better.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Calibri was supposedly easier to read by people with disabilities. While this itself is debatable, that's not the reasoning behind the font switch. The mere attempt at making life easier for disadvantaged people is labeled DEI and as such cannot be tolerated by this administration.

I don't think that much thought went into it. The change was initiated by the department's DEIA ("A" for Accessibility) office. Anything that office did was a priority for this administration. Keep in mind that the transgenic mouse breeding program used to make lab mice for research got defined because the President claimed Democrats were so woke they were funding "trans" mice research. Half of what they are doing is…

I listened to the economist podcast on that- hilarious in the worst way- was leading harvard research

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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> Calibri font has "I" and "l" the same, according to Wikipedia. A better font should avoid characters being too similar (such as "I" and "l" and "1"). Only when used in a context where they can be confused. This is a situation where HN is going to give bad advice. Programmers care deeply about that stuff (i.e. "100l" is a long-valued integer literal in C and not the number 1001). Most people tend not to, and there i…

"Only when used in a context where they can be confused." So what are you supposed to when you're typing along and suddenly you find yourself in such a context? Switch the font of that one occurrence? That document? Your whole publishing effort? Capital "i"s without crossbars aren't capital "i"s. They're lower-case Ls. Any font that doesn't recognize this should be rejected.

> Capital "i"s without crossbars aren't capital "i"s. They're lower-case Ls. Any font that doesn't recognize this should be rejected.

You have asserted this at least thrice in the past thirty minutes. What makes you feel so strongly about it? "Rejected" for what purpose? Do you understand that you've just trashed Helvetica, to take a famous example?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Calibri was supposedly easier to read by people with disabilities. While this itself is debatable, that's not the reasoning behind the font switch. The mere attempt at making life easier for disadvantaged people is labeled DEI and as such cannot be tolerated by this administration.

> Calibri was supposedly easier to read by people with disabilities

I'd love to know how that was determined. Given that:

"If different fonts are best for different people, you might imagine that the solution to the fonts problem would be a preference setting to allow each user to select the font that’s best for them.

This solution will not work, for two reasons. First, previous research on user-interface customization has found that most users don’t use preference settings, but simply make do with the default.

Second, and worse, users don’t know what’s best for them, so they can’t choose the best font, even if they were given the option to customize their fonts. In this study, participants read 14% faster in their fastest font (314 WPM, on average) compared to their most preferred font (275 WPM, on average)"

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/best-font-for-online-readin...

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Calibri was supposedly easier to read by people with disabilities. While this itself is debatable, that's not the reasoning behind the font switch. The mere attempt at making life easier for disadvantaged people is labeled DEI and as such cannot be tolerated by this administration.

I don't think that much thought went into it. The change was initiated by the department's DEIA ("A" for Accessibility) office. Anything that office did was a priority for this administration. Keep in mind that the transgenic mouse breeding program used to make lab mice for research got defined because the President claimed Democrats were so woke they were funding "trans" mice research. Half of what they are doing is…

The funny thing is that they were indeed funding “trans” mice research:

> To understand the effects of feminizing sex hormone therapy on vaccination, we propose to develop a mouse model of gender-affirming hormone therapy, assess its relevance to human medicine through singe-cell transcriptome studies, and test the immune responses of “cis” vs. “trans” mice to a HIV vaccine.

https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10849830#descriptio...

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