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Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by immibis »

lucianbr wrote: post #288
s_dev wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>rest assured there will be no available hands to keep the status page updated That's not how status pages if implemented correctly work. The real reason status pages aren't updated is SLAs. If you agree on a contract to have 99.99% uptime your status page better reflect that or it invalidates many contracts. This is why AWS also lies about it's uptime and status page. These services rarely experience outages accordi…

Are the contracts so easy to bypass? Who signs a contract with an SLA knowing the service provider will just lie about the availability? Is the client supposed to sue the provider any time there is an SLA breach?

The company that is trying to cancel its contract early needs to prove the SLA was violated, which is very easy of the company providing the service also provides a page that says their SLA was violated. Otherwise it's much harder to prove.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by franga2000 »

laurent123456 wrote: post #301
s_dev wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>rest assured there will be no available hands to keep the status page updated That's not how status pages if implemented correctly work. The real reason status pages aren't updated is SLAs. If you agree on a contract to have 99.99% uptime your status page better reflect that or it invalidates many contracts. This is why AWS also lies about it's uptime and status page. These services rarely experience outages accordi…

This is weird - at this level contracts are supposed to be rock solid so why wouldn't they require accurate status reporting? That's trivial to implement, and you can even require to have it on a neutral third-party like UptimeRobot and be done with it. I'm sure there are gray areas in such contracts but something being down or not is pretty black and white.

> something being down or not is pretty black and white

This is so obviously not true that I'm not sure if you're even being serious.

Is the control panel being inaccessible for one region "down"? Is their DNS "down" if the edit API doesn't work, but existing records still get resolved? Is their reverse proxy service "down" if it's still proxying fine, just not caching assets?

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by esseph »

artlovecode wrote: post #170
headmelted wrote: post #101

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It's 1AM in San Francisco right now. I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince and wake him up for this one. And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this.

Agreed, I feel bad for them. But mostly because cloudflare's workflows are so bad that you're seemingly repeatedly set up for really public failures. Like how does this keep happening without leadership's heads rolling. The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality

> The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality

I don't think anyone's is.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by rvnx »

yapyap wrote: post #233
63stack wrote: post #53

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This is just business as usual, status pages are 95% for show now. The data center would have to be under water for the status page to say "some users might be experiencing disruptions".

well it does say that now, so… which datacenter got flooded?

> In progress - Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary. Dec 05, 2025 - 09:00 UTC

It's a scheduled maintenance, so SLA should not apply right ?

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by immibis »

5d41402abc4b wrote: post #312
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #85

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Probably fired a lot of their best people in the past few years and replaced it with AI. They have a de-facto monopoly, so we'll just accept it and wait patiently until they fix the problem. You know, business as usual in the grift economy.

>They have a de-facto monopoly On what? There are lots of CDN providers out there.

There's only one that lets everyone sign up for free.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by kortilla »

zwnow wrote: post #351
koakuma-chan wrote: post #197

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No, it has nothing to do with Rust.

The first one had something to do with Rust :-)

Not really. In C or C++ that could have just been a segfault.

.unwrap() literally means “I’m not going to handle the error branch of this result, please crash”.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by yoctosec »

DocJade wrote: post #205
yoctosec wrote: post #115

I use Cloudflare because of their Tunnel to protect my Raspberry Pi, but I think I will just use it without the Tunnel now. My main concern is privacy, but I'm not ready to accept so frequent downtime and dependence on them. The whole reason to host self-host was to be independent anyway. Does anyone have a recommendation for that (that is free)? Should I worry about privacy? My name and my city are on the website an…

my tunnels are still working, oddly

Now mine works again too, I guess it was a short outage

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by m_mueller »

madjam002 wrote: post #340

Looking forward to the post mortem on this one. We weren't affected (just using the CDN), and people are saying they weren't affected who are using Cloudflare Workers (a previous culprit which we've since moved off), so I wonder what service / API was actually affected that brought down multiple websites with a 500 but not all of them. Wise was just down which is a pretty big one. Also odd how some websites were down…

Maven Repository was down for me for a while, now it recovered.

Re: Cloudflare was down

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Post by unixfox »

runeb wrote: post #202
yoctosec wrote: post #115

I use Cloudflare because of their Tunnel to protect my Raspberry Pi, but I think I will just use it without the Tunnel now. My main concern is privacy, but I'm not ready to accept so frequent downtime and dependence on them. The whole reason to host self-host was to be independent anyway. Does anyone have a recommendation for that (that is free)? Should I worry about privacy? My name and my city are on the website an…

Checkout tailscale

Tailscale's control plane uses Cloudflare.
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