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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by tombert »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #61
tombert wrote: post #40

I just reinstalled my NixOS gaming thing with Jovian from scratch. Not much of a reason, other than I wanted to do things a bit more "correct" this time (e.g. tmpfs root). I did briefly consider Bazzite, but the thing that stopped me was that I wasn't sure how well it would work with an eGPU. With Jovian and NixOS, it is ultimately still just NixOS minimal under the covers, and that is low-level enough for me to play…

I take it your eGPU is Nvidia-based? My AMD eGPU didn't need any special handling on Linux. I was pretty amazed by it.

Yeah, nvidia.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by newdee »

EliteGadget wrote: post #342
dangus wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not horribly complicated. I have a single 3 line script capturing the current state of my homebrew, flatpak, and rpm-ostree state that runs before Pika Backup backs up my entire home directory. You have 5 bash scripts and various dotfiles. That sounds a lot more complicated. Bazzite is really not much different to any of the atomic fedora distributions. The only thing more complicated about immutable Linux is th…

The complexity is hidden. I don't require all the gumph. I just gave bash and a Debian install. Pretending the rube goldberg machine isn't one because you've hidden it behind a facia doesn't mean it isn't one. When all of that complexity doesn't work (which sooner or later it will), it will be more difficult to fix.

Your comments read like you aren’t actually familiar or have any experience with using what you’re criticising.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by Cyan488 »

ksymph wrote: post #64
Cyan488 wrote: post #30

I've been dual booting Bazzite and Zorin for the last month it's been working out well. I didn't really like Bazzite as a daily driver, but it worked better for gaming.

Any particular reason you didn't like Bazzite as a daily driver? I've been considering replacing Fedora with it on my main laptop.

I admit didn't spend a lot of time with it, but right after installing it, I needed to work on a project with Platform.io in VSCode. What was a 10 minute process in Zorin (mainly due to not using Flatpaks) didn't work out after over an hour in Bazzite.

Also, Bazzite takes over 2 minutes to boot, while Zorin takes less than 20 seconds.

I'm pretty new to Linux as a daily driver, and need a stable base that I'm familiar with for my non-gaming daily work, and Bazzite isn't that for me yet. On the other hand, Bazzite just worked out of the box for gaming, better than Zorin did.

I have a big enough SSD to split the partition and let each distro do its best work for me.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by newdee »

tommica wrote: post #235
udev4096 wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immutable is very good for new linux users but I personally don't like the restriction and find rpmostree extremely slow to install literally anything. It does make sense to use immutable distros in routers, firewall, etc

I try not to use rpmostree to install anything (only steam-input, codecs and nvidia drivers), and rely on homebrew, appimages, flatpaks and toolbox for my app needs. It works so far... There is something about immutable linuxes that feels right, and I cannot pinpoint why exactly, but it's like things are segregated correctly.

It’s probably that they’re near impossible to break or end up with an unusable system.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by zanmat0 »

Borealid wrote: post #152
zanmat0 wrote: post #145

I really wanted to give this a legitimate try but even following the installation instructions to the letter, it bricked my Windows install and I had to spend a few hours fixing the MBR, Bootloader, etc. I'm sure it would be a breeze using a separate physical drive but that'll be a project for another day. Bazzite does look very promising and happy to see innovation in the Linux gaming world!

Bazzite has a command, `ujust setup-boot-windows-steam`, which when run adds an entry to Steam-in-Bazzite that causes a Windows boot. It also has a command `ujust regenerate-grub` which adds a Windows entry to the bootloader. Each of these is a single command which only must be run one time after install. I suppose it could take a few hours to either do it by hand, or to discover one of these options, but they are bo…

I couldn't even manage to boot into any shell so not sure this would've helped me much...

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by KyleGospo »

machomaster wrote: post #358
KyleGospo wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Awesome, I'll probably workshop it a touch but I appreciate the input.

Now the title on tip reads "The operating system for the next generation of gamers" while just yesterday it was simply "The next generation of Linux gaming". The change is for the better, but I would still like to have words like "Linux" and "distro/distribution/pack" be seen somewhere soon after the visitor loads the page.

We don't consider ourselves a distribution and linux is mentioned all over the rest of the page.

It said Linux before but apparently that wasn't clear that it's an operating system, less is more sometimes.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

machomaster wrote: post #366
d3Xt3r wrote: post #129

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The entire point of Bazzite and other immutables is that you get a rock solid system that you never ever have to worry about breaking. Atomic updates means updates either apply or don't: there's no partial/fail state that can stop your PC from working. And in the rare event that an update has issues, you can instantly boot the previous two images, without typing any commands or using any fancy restore tools. And if y…

Mint does support upgrading the OS, both to minor and major versions. I personally installed Mint in 2014 and used the upgrade path until a month ago, when my distro finally started showing bad signs of being experimented on (by me, for 11 years) and it was easier to do a fresh install instead.

I know the OS itself does, I meant it wasn't recommended by the team. See these instructions written by the founder Clement himself, especially under section E where they say "We do not even recommend this on the command line, so to have it triggered from the click of a button is just not acceptable to us. It's easy alright, but it's not the right solution."

https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by KyleGospo »

SquareWheel wrote: post #205
indolering wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were going to shut it down due to upstream Fedora considering ending 32-bit support. Sticking to upstream wouldn't have helped you avoid that issue.

Why do you say that? If they drop 32-bit support, maybe I won't be able to play games for a time - at least until somebody rigs up a fix - but at least my operating system will still be supported. If Bazzite goes poof overnight, though, that's a major problem. At least Fedora's official spins will continue to receive necessary updates.

The Steam client is 32-bit, the majority of games on Steam are 32-bit, and very popular titles like Left 4 Dead 2 are 32-bit.

The last time a distro tried to do this Ubuntu caved and continued supporting it with an extra repo. Fedora has no chance of winning that argument.

The good news is the incident you're talking about was a change proposal proposed by a single person and never even voted on. It did not survive the comment stage.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

machomaster wrote: post #358
KyleGospo wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Awesome, I'll probably workshop it a touch but I appreciate the input.

Now the title on tip reads "The operating system for the next generation of gamers" while just yesterday it was simply "The next generation of Linux gaming". The change is for the better, but I would still like to have words like "Linux" and "distro/distribution/pack" be seen somewhere soon after the visitor loads the page.

  Gaming on Linux: The Final Frontier.

  These are the voyages of the Linux distribution, Bazzite.
  Its continuing mission, to support all computer games.
  To seek out new gamers and new platforms.
  To boldly go where no distro has gone before!

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by hoherd »

foxheadman wrote: post #29
haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

Bazzite is a part of the Universal Blue family, which is more of a repackaging of Fedora Atomic. I'm a fan of my Steam Deck and SteamOS, but I'd like that experience to eventually be available via community supported distros, which Valve/Igalia can rebase from, and instead focus on Proton. Bazzite is the closest to that that we have so far.

Exactly. And Bazzite is crushing the numbers compared to the other ublue distros https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_global....
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