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Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

greensoap wrote: post #325
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not supposed to do this, this is to get around a restriction on installing Windows 11 on certain hardware. If your computer is supported and you install it the way Microsoft wants you to, then you won't be typing any commands anywhere.

Generally curious, I don't see anything about hardware. Isn't this is about making a login that doesn't require you to login to MS's cloud. Also, what HW restriction does Microsoft want? Why do they care?

Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0, that's the actual reason a massive number of PCs can't update to it. There's apparently some way you can hack around that and install it. I assumed that's what these videos were about. But from the reddit post it looks like it's talking about both that and the account login issue which I wasn't familiar with.

> including how to install Windows 11 without logging into a Microsoft account and how to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

gspencley wrote: post #333
saghm wrote: post #307

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I guess I'm old and out of touch after only a bit over three decades, because I can't figure out why this would helpful to have as a video in the first place over the text summary you posted here. I could see screenshots maybe being slightly helpful, but to having this sort of thing as a video feels like an extreme inconvenience; I'd much rather see all of it at once and be able to visually scan (or even better, ctrl…

I share your bias, but something to consider is the prevalence of smart phone usage these days, and the fact that reading text on a smart phone can be as awful as trying to watch a video on a desktop when all you want is a quick text summary. I've always hated the trend of moving towards video as well. But if my desktop was currently in the process of installing the operating system, leaving me without a web browser,…

Reading a brief article on a smartphone is far less tedious than having to squint at details in a miniscule video.

If you can't read normal text on a phone screen, consider corrective lenses.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by 15155 »

dylan604 wrote: post #323
saghm wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I'm old and out of touch after only a bit over three decades, because I can't figure out why this would helpful to have as a video in the first place over the text summary you posted here. I could see screenshots maybe being slightly helpful, but to having this sort of thing as a video feels like an extreme inconvenience; I'd much rather see all of it at once and be able to visually scan (or even better, ctrl…

Videos get higher rankings in Google's search. Remember those? Definitely says something about your age though complaining about video versions of anything. Kids today don't even know what Google's search page looks like. They search in YouTube, TikTok type apps first. Since the location bar has also become the search bar while theGoogs pays browsers to be the default search, lots of people are not even aware they ar…

Video format is objectively lower bandwidth (information-density-wise) than text regardless of age.

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Post by csdreamer7 »

LauraMedia wrote: post #225
Ray20 wrote: post #212

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And in the Linux community, "run" apparently has a slightly different meaning than what ordinary people are used to.

I thought the same but let's not pretend Windows is a holy grail for compatibility anymore. Especially when it comes to older games, this facade / image breaks down fast. I once tried to play Trackmania Nations (not Forever or United Forever, the ESWC one) because that was the first entry of this series I played. I still have all the files from back then so I thought it would be as simple as installing it and running…

To add to this Nathan Briggs does reverse engineering to make old games work on modern Windows. Windows 11 has corrected faults in it's APIs that probably should have been fixed but somehow worked with older versions of Windows that gamedevs built around. He often posts the solution and sends it GOG. Often this involves updating a community maintained wrapper around the DirectX APIs that GOG uses.

I think you will really like this content.

https://www.youtube.com/@nathanbaggs

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Post by another_bear »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #351
indymike wrote: post #311

It's as if the web as we known it has outgrown it's usefulness to individual people beyond interacting with companies and government. Time for something new. No idea what, but we need a way for people to share with people... That's what made usenet, then the web so awesome. Both were mostly wrecked by the same commercialization.

> Time for something new How should that look like and what could one make differently? What we currently have could easily used to share with people (like it was years ago). Nothing really changed but people use it differntly now...

I like to think ActivityPub is a good candidate.

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Post by scuff3d »

a5c11 wrote: post #48

It's funny to see how Windows and Linux completely switched sides. Linux once being the clumsy one, hard to install, even harder to configure, mediocre UX, running on poor device drivers and requiring hours spent on the internet to solve a problem. Today, replace the "Linux" word with "Windows" in the previous sentence.

It's funny how we see these threads every few months, and it's always the same thing (referring to the discussion below this comment as well).

Linux people (myself included) are utterly blind to the rough edges on Linux. Even something like Mint, which is probably the best starting place for someone coming from Windows, can have weird issues depending on your hardware.

On the other hand, Windows users are hilariously misinformed about the state of the Linux Desktop. To hear them talk you'd think we're still back in 1997.

All of that said, for anyone curious, it is 100% worth trying out. Linux has come a LONG way. Mint is great for general usage, Bazzite is a good choice for gaming. Unless you're playing competitive shooters it's basically a guarantee the games you want to play run on Linux. There will be some rough edges and stuff to get use to, but IMO it's worth a try at least.

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Post by mrguyorama »

lelanthran wrote: post #343
Brett_Riverboat wrote: post #206

For those who care at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10 CMD will open Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter. Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter. Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter. Next type “net use…

What is the singular goal of doing all that? Avoid online-only accounts?

I have a microsoft account. I made it for Windows Live to play Halo 2 for Windows Vista back in the day.

Except, then Microsoft adjusted their account infrastructure, and now it's also an Xbox Live account. Then it became also a Windows Messenger account. Then it was required to login to Visual Studio. Then it ate my perfectly working Mojang account. Now I need it to install stuff from the Windows store like the damn Windows debugger you use to analyze BSOD dump files

I do not want my computer preferences saved across machines. I want to set up each computer separately. I do not want cortana. I do not want to connect my local computer to my account.

I gain nothing by using my microsoft account to log in to my local computer.

The singular goal is that I just want to use my damn computer, to do local computer things.

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Post by Terr_ »

indymike wrote: post #311

It's as if the web as we known it has outgrown it's usefulness to individual people beyond interacting with companies and government. Time for something new. No idea what, but we need a way for people to share with people... That's what made usenet, then the web so awesome. Both were mostly wrecked by the same commercialization.

In my bright-eyed geeky youth, I kept thinking that clever technology was usually enough to solve problems.

Nowadays, I feel many problems are emergent from economic and legal structures, and a new software project is often just temporarily treating a symptom.

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Post by mrguyorama »

nonethewiser wrote: post #289
zparky wrote: post #275

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yeah they introduced vanguard anticheat on all riot games which isn't supported on linux.

Woah so Riot broke League on Linux? I guess they probably did the math but that seems like a bold move.

Why would it be a "bold move"? Linux gaming population is damn near zero, they do not provide a higher profit margin like mac gamers would, and the documented evidence is that supporting Linux users is obnoxious because they are rude and entitled but not actually that much better at providing feedback.

Epic Games bought out rocket league and turned off a native linux build and faced no repercussions. Instead they made plenty of money.

That's the bar.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by scuff3d »

pas wrote: post #370
scuff3d wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think non-technical people, who may have literally never seen a commandline, like seeing someone walk through it (and probably explain context along the way). Helps ensure them they are doing the correct things.

I've seen probably too many terminals, but a video that actually demonstrates things (when to press the keys, for how long, what's the expected response from the installer, and so on, and so on) seems super helpful and easy to follow! (Even if it's worse in many regards, like terseness, accessibility for blind people, and so on.)

Agreed. Also people tend to add a lot of context when they're talking through a process. That often gets left out when writing.

I've written docs at work intended for non (or less) technical people and it's a pain in the ass to try and get screenshots of expected inputs/outputs, try to predict every question or misunderstanding and make the writing clear. There has been more than a few times I wished I could just record a video.

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