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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

Direct drive models are a little quieter. Modern drums are slightly larger. Many people live where there is plenty of water, so increasing water efficiency isn't very valuable. It's not worth increased fabric wear or energy consumption!

There isn't much gain. That's the point! She's got a device that's nice to use, repairable, is well-designed, and isn't serving her ads. She's fine! Really. If she wants a new washer, Miele washing machines hold value and can be resold.

She probably doesn't think about it, which is the real gift. She's free to think about literally anything else! I have an extension to the Vimes boot theory, where you don't even notice your boots when they're working like they're supposed to. Most of us aren't enlightened enough to notice and appreciate that our feet are dry. This reduced cognitive overhead increases capacity for creativity and play, which further amplifies the life outcomes of people buying cardboard-soled boots vs leather boots.

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3 phase is 380V

Three phase consumer induction stoves are approximately 0% of the consumer induction stove market.

I'm pretty sure most of them just use a higher amp circuit. A 40 amp circuit at 230v is 9kW which is more than enough. I've also seen one particularly high end stove which used a battery to cover the extra power needed for the highest setting. Also means you could use it in a power outage.

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I recall Louis saying that some (or all?) solutions to these bounties cannot be revealed to the public due to being liable under DMCA circumvention measures. IANAL.

Doesn't it just affect US citizens?

The US has successfully bullied many countries around the world to adopt their same insane IP laws, at the cost of cancelling trade agreements with those countries if they don't comply. So no, it affects many countries.

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Everyone here seems to hate on the idea of seeing ads on an appliance you purchased. I hate ads too!

But, let's consider the counterfactual. What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads?

I hate ads, but I'm not sure I would pass up a free fridge...those things are expensive!

(this is not even that unrealistic. Let's say you have a household of 3 and a fridge lasts 10 years. Meta makes about $200 per year per user solely from showing ads; that's $6000 over 10 years. If Samsung got as good as Meta is (which they likely won't), 6k is more than enough to cover the cost of giving a fridge away for free)

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The problem is that we are running out of alternatives. How long until there are no refrigerators, TVs, cars, whatever that will not work without some amount of baked in advertising?

I dunno, my family started buying LG stuff for our appliances and otherwise, and none of the stuff has forceful ads on them, at least yet. Currently I think we have LG TVs, fridge, dish washer, drier, washing machine and something else I can't remember, all of them working well, has nice and fast at-home support when needed and no ads even on the TVs.

My LG TV got an update which started pushing ads. I had to take it off the internet and use a Chromecast instead. But I fear it's not long before products straight up refuse to function without an internet connection, or they have their own way to access the internet you can't disable.

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This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

>This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. I saw someone else’s Samsung TV with ads on the input select menu… That was enough to pre-ban myself from any future Samsung appliance.

Even when they aren't loaded with ads, Samsung products are built to fail almost immediately. My Samsung vacuum has been a total piece of shit that's falling apart. I will never buy another Samsung product again.

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Everyone here seems to hate on the idea of seeing ads on an appliance you purchased. I hate ads too! But, let's consider the counterfactual. What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads? I hate ads, but I'm not sure I would pass up a free fridge...those things are expensive! (this is not even that unrealistic. Let's say you have a household of 3 and a fridge lasts 10 year…

Are they going to lock the fridge for 30 seconds each time you want to open it so that they make sure you finish watching the ad?

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This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

> They make nice stuff. Do they? I've never owned a Samsung phone, in large part because I was always turned off by reports that they liked to skin Android in annoying/lame ways. I have a Samsung fridge/freezer (old and not-smart), but the in-door ice maker has a design flaw that causes condensation to drip, freeze, and clog it, so we've given up on it and just make our own ice with regular old-school trays in the fr…

I've had a few Samsung products over the years. The only one I haven't regretted is their SSDs, both internal and external. Those seem to be good. Everything else has been awful.

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Millions of people sit through minutes of the worst ads I've ever seen to watch mr beast exploit homeless people. We're boned.

How does anyone watch youtube these days? I wouldn't mind seeing an ad or even 2, but it feels like youtube is singling me out for special treatment. I'm not going to watch anything if i'm scared a 30 second ad will interrupt the video.

i use the rss feed of the channels i am subscribed to and download the videos i want to watch with yt-dlp. i may browse the homepage every so often but i just copy the links and download them.

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More than technically correct—the best kind of correct—you are plain correct. (I've used em-dashes since before LLMs and I'm not fucking stopping now) EDIT: s,',,

Sounds like something an LLM would say.

Everything does. That's the fucking problem.
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