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Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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Draw.io is my go-to tool on any platform now. I did an entire bachelors and masters using it for all my diagrams. I like OmniGraffle but personally I didn't think it was worth it when draw.io was free anyway. Like I don't feel it was $150-$250 better than draw.io, especially since it's not cross platform.

I just checked and Draw.io is just Electron slop. Disappointing.

Well part of the appeal is that it can be in the browser without installing anything.

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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Programmers use markdown or LaTeX anyway; there’s approximately nobody excited about working on an office suite. It is a completely unrewarding task.

This is a pretty ignorant take.

How so?

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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They stick the licenses in the back of whatever pack of documents are used during the sale. Heck, print it on the back of the work order in small print with a gray font. On my motorcycle, there’s an option to view the software licenses used on the bike. The GPL is in there somewhere. So are a lot of other things. And, no, during checkout at the dealer, we didn’t spend any time talking about software licenses. As a bu…

ok, so someone makes the license available for end user to read or not, thats one down for providers responsibility. now the next is the nature of linux as a common good, generated by many contributors over some time. is it acceptable for anyone to turn a profit from distributing copies of linux on media, or as a component of a retail unit, for an additional price ? how does that scale up? suppose thousands of ISOs o…

You may find it morally objectionable to sell distributions of free software for a fee but for F/OSS licensing in no way forbids that.

GPL version 3 explicitly says "you may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey". The MIT license also explicitly allows selling the work.

No other free or open source license forbids selling either. In fact the Open Source Definition from OSI expressly says: "The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources."

Linux distributions have been commercially sold for decades. Red Hat built its entire RHEL business on that, even when they still played nicer with open source. (Of course the key really was the support they provided to their paying customers but I think you still needed to pay to get your hands on RHEL anyway.)

Of course the problem you'd be facing if you wanted to sell free software at a significant price would be that since you can't forbid redistribution of the copies you sold (and you need to provide source code), someone else can take what you sell and redistribute it for free. So you can only really sell other people's free software if you either get ignorant people to buy it despite the same thing being available for free elsewhere, or if you provide something else on top of it that people are willing to pay for.

That severely limits the possibilities of making big bucks by just selling free software developed by others.

Perhaps the community is philanthropic to the point of providing free software for other people to sell. But the community or the authors of the licenses aren't naive. The possibility has been known from the start, as was the fact that it's after all quite difficult to charge a lot of money for selling something when free downloads are also almost guaranteed to exist.

I'd be a lot more concerned about how volunteers assume active maintenance burden and responsibility for software libraries that are used for free by just about every software company on the planet.

I don't see anything about trinsic2's (or anybody else's) promoting Linux or installing it on customers' computers that would be in contradiction with open source, even morally. I certainly don't see how a "license" could be required for doing so when the individual licenses of each included piece of software already permit commercial distribution. The only way he might need a separate license would be if he installed a distribution that's actually not entirely open source and bundles proprietary components that are not freely distributable.

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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> I would say that specifically with Secure Boot, Microsoft actually promoted user choice: A Windows Logo compliant PC needs to have Microsoft's root of trust installed by default. Microsoft could have stopped there, but they didn't. This was not the case with the initial rollout of Secure Boot, it was combined with locked BIOS to lock PCs so that they could only boot Windows 8 on some devices. This was the case on W…

> This was not the case with the initial rollout of Secure Boot, it was combined with locked BIOS to lock PCs so that they could only boot Windows 8 on some devices. This was the case on Windows RT ARM machines from that era. Okay, but, that was like 15 years ago, on some shitty first-run computers that no one bought. A failed first attempt. I've never met a single person that owned, or has ever used, a Windows RT de…

> Dwelling on the past isn't going to move us forward.

Forgetting the past will make PC's as closed as phones.

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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I think it's a good plan, though there might be some pain. I have a bog standard AMD graphics card that does not work in Linux. I've tried multiple distributions and version in those distributions and both the Linux and AMD drivers. It just randomly flashes. Where do I go to get help? Who knows?

Sounds fishy. What card is this?

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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Gaming on linux has been awesome for years. With the advent of systems like bazzite, the transition is only getting easier.

+1, switched to Bazzite about three weeks ago. I did have to dualboot a Windows after a couple of days, unfortunately. Mostly related to Anti-Cheat and other shitty measures. Dark Souls II did not want to recognize my Controller, even though it works fine in every other game. Skate can't be played on Linux because of Anti-Cheat, but fuck EA anyways. Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, Dishonored 2 and Death to the Outsider a…

> Dark Souls II did not want to recognize my Controller

I ran into that problem on DS2 also. It seems that game picks the first input device it finds, so I was able to force it to use the controller by unplugging my keyboard (or maybe it was the mouse? It was one of those).

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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I think by default after fresh install it suggests the "old" layout akin to Office 2000, but you can just select "tabbed ribbon" and then it really isn't half bad.

You know we are living in crazy times when people actually actively ask for the ribbon interface instead of making fun of Microsoft for it. It's one of the worst things ever conceived in UI design.

Both have their issues but having 50 uncategorized icons (I just looked up default libre office ui screenshot and counted...) is something only a power user can love. They can keep their classic ui as an option.

Categorized ribbon is an improvement for most people. Especially new generations who simply can't enjoy the effect of shared conventions with other software.

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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"Drowning in e-waste" was a metaphor for "slowly destroying the conditions for civilisation with the violent obsession for more fossil fuel and more minerals to extract".

That's a bad metaphor, because those problems don't have anything significant in common with the e-waste problem, but there is no particular danger of smartphones being a major contributor to them, either. According to https://www.apple.com/nz/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPh... the emissions per iPhone 16 are 56 kg of CO₂ equivalent, 18% of which is the expected energy consumption during the life of the product.…

e-waste is very much linked with over-production, of which any particular product taken in isolation, be it iphone or tomatoes, is of course insignificant, the issue being the economy at large not iphones or Apple.

I don't know what's your point exactly? I was close to believe that this near perfect mix of naive quotation from Apple PR BS, computation of tons of minerals required to build a phone to the 5th decimal, and the lackadaisical insulting remarks, was some refined form of humor. But given we are on HN, you might just be this kind of engineer who can't see the forest for the tree.

So, assuming you are just inapropriately expressing a genuine concern that I might be mislead into believing that refraining oneself from buying any more phones is going to slow our society spiraling down into chaos, rest assured: I'm not believing this. My posture is all about principles, and holds for an iphone like for any of the many useless things a normal, modern life wants us to consume routinely, because I believe one should try to do the right thing no matter what, regardless of the odds of success, because proceeding otherwise requires to define success, an end goal, and that's a circular impossibility. Yes, as you can see, I'm with you on the spectrum. :-)

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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A number of customers are leaving Windows for Linux ahead of Windows 11. To support them, we had to offer a linux equivalent for a bunch of C# .NET desktop apps. After evaluating a lot of options, pyQT + nuitka gave a reliable cross-platform result (can target distros based on Debian and Enterprise Linux easily.) And we are still able to target Windows for the customers that remain there.

Avalonia would have been a far, far better option.

We evaluated a ton of options, I'm not sure how Avalonia didn't make the list. Thanks for the tip!

Re: Retiring Windows 10 and Microsoft's move towards a surveillance state

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Make sure libreoffice is included, and ublock origin. Show them how much faster it is, with fewer ads, and no subscription to Microsoft required just to write a document. The business customers might want to know that databases are a lot cheaper on Linux, especially for small business. Literally spoke to an automation company the other week that told me "we have to delete a bunch of stuff every time the database gets…

> Make sure libreoffice is included Probably an unpopular thing to say here, but in my experience pushing non-tech people to use libreoffice as part of a Linux transition is a fast track to getting them to hate Linux. Using Google Docs has been much more welcoming in my experience. Something about libreoffice doesn’t resonate with a lot of non-tech people.

I use Office all the time. But I see you can use "2010 or 2016 with Wine on Linux"? Which would be fine by me. Office 2010 does all you need really.
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