I wonder how many people in the UK have actually got their passport out to sign into these services. I'm guessing the average HN user isn't likely to do this, but I'd love to see the numbers for the general populous.
Discord says 70k users may have had their government IDs leaked in breach
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Fun fact: Discord called them guilds before realising that they could compete with paid services that set up actual (e.g. Mumble) servers for you by pretending this is equivalent and free I also have trouble going along with the doublespeak. If a supermarket called their beer apple juice, I'd also not be offering my friends "apple juice", I'd call it what it is Guild is innocuous enough and since the API docs still c…
This seems like a distinction without a difference. If you used a paid service offering Mumble servers that used some custom software that allowed them to offer multiple ... "servers" on different ports/IP addresses from a single daemon, would you really care? Focusing on the fact that it's not really a "server" because they aren't running as separate processes seems like utterly silly pedantry, and we probably don't…
The distinction matters. The cost (to my users) of switching from one Mumble server to another is the same, regardless of who hosts the server. The cost of switching from one "Discord server" to another is much lower than the cost of switching between Discord and any Discord clone, keeping people on Discord.
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This makes me hate the Twitter rebrand even more. I'm reading your use of "X" as generic name to be filled in as needed vs the poorly rebranded Musk owned platform. Then again, I could see that platform actually promoting its services to do this very thing.
it's time to bring back metasyntactic variables https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/foo
as a fan of Mr. Robot, I like to use evilCorp to be replaced by which ever one is being discussed.
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A simple Google search turns up results from years ago that are still valid today: https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/ircyh1/locked_o... > You'll be required to register a phone number to your Discord account in order to continue the use of it.
I didn't claim that it didn't happen to you, or that it never happens. You seemed to be implying that it will always happen, or commonly happen; my experience is proof that it doesn't always happen, and at least as strong evidence for it rarely happening as your experience is of it frequently happening.
>I didn't claim that it didn't happen to you, or that it never happens.
The following is worded in such a way that it very much reads that you're saying it doesn't happen...
>When other people say that something happens to them, why should I simply take them at their word when it contradicts the evidence actually available to me?
You've very clearly said that if something hasn't happened to you, you're not likely to believe someone when they tell you it's happened to them. Further...
>You seemed to be implying that it will always happen, or commonly happen...
... there was no implication. The comment you initially responded to clearly stated specific instances that will trigger the phone number requirement, the same instances that are very clearly stated by Discord[1] itself.
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For years, I resisted TSA Pre check on principle, even though I was a frequent traveler. I finally relented when I realized there were places like Thailand that force you to give your biometrics, and almost certainly sell them back to shadowy US agencies.
> places like Thailand that force you to give your biometrics You're being returned the favor! Anyone that's ever entered the US has had to do the same, and our prints are being stored in a DHS database. Out of curiosity, did you not need to provide prints to get a passport in the first place? I can't image a single developed country without biometric passports.
A US passport does not require fingerprints or any other biometric data, aside from a photograph.
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#377I kinda hope and root for EU's spec ( https://ageverification.dev/Technical%20Specification/archit... ) with "Zero Knowledge Proof" that wouldn't require passing actual ID to the service…
My preference would be just requiring site operators to add the RTA header [1] for anything that could potentially be adult in nature or user contributed content and let parents decide if devices should have parental controls. Not perfect, nothing is but would protect most small children. Teens will easily bypass any method as many today watch porn together in rated-g/pg video games that allow setting up a streaming…
That would be also nice, but given we can't make everyone to do the most basic interoperability I don't see it working…
As for: > Teens will easily bypass any method as many today watch porn
well, they do, but each obstacle discourage them to do that. It's like with chocolate while being on a diet - if you have it within reach next to you you are more likely to eat it; put it on a shelf which would require standing and walking - slighly less likely; put it in another room - even less; and if you don't have it in home and you would have dress up and take out the car and drive to the shop most likely you would just wave your hand at that :)
So no - it won't prevent it completely but I'd argue that it would significantly decrease the use :)
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#378We need more breaches, it will render that data unstorable
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#379I understand I grew up in a different era but it is beyond absurd to me that a chat application requires government ID from it's users. I understand the rationale but I do not find it convincing in the least, especially with the way that security is treated at basically any entity that has this kind of info on file. I do not like this world that we have created and I would like to apply for a full refund
newer generations have been indoctrinated early
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#380You've got to be a complete moron uploading your gov ID to discord
Are you seriously blaming kids and teenagers (who spend their free time on Discord) because they are not smart enough to know better and form communities elsewhere? You can do better than victim blame, and instead point the finger at Discord and whoever told the British government that delegating ID control to third-parties was a good idea.
...or point the finger at ourselves, for not creating a more decentralized and secure place for our kids to hang out online.