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Re: Kagi News

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I used Kagi search for awhile but eventually switched back to google because Kagi location aware search sucks. It might be better nowadays. I’ve been living on their browser Orion for a few weeks now though and it’s great. It works about 90% of the time which is impressive for a browser that isn’t tested alongside the big 4

What do you mean 90%? Orion is WebKit under the hood, so any failures would be surprising.

They use a custom fork of WebKit with many features added

Re: Kagi News

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I've been using Kagi for 2 months and has some very positive experiences with it. Nowadays I don't use search heavily but it's still nice to have alternatives like Kagi search.

The news feature feels a bit underwhelming and underdeveloped though, especially with the LLM/AI approach.

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> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual. I might not agree with all decisions Kagi makes, but this is gold. Endless scrolling is a big indicator that you're a consumer not a customer.

This is one of the big reasons I've gravitated towards a reverse-chronological feed that takes you from the past to the present -- at some point you hit a natural end, which is a natural prompt to go do something else. I've picked up Reeder[0] as a feed reader, since it can aggregate a bunch of sources (chiefly RSS, but also Mastodon, BlueSky, reddit, etc) and presents it in such a timeline without pressure to read e…

I am seeing this app mentioned after years. When did this one move to subscription model - it was a one time paid app? Found it - it's also available as Reeder Classic on mac app store.

Anyway, there's this https://netnewswire.com - https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire (mac native) if someone is looking for an open source alt.

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> to understand actual patterns in actions of members of the party. Or to construct patterns that don't reflect reality. Should we also list their ages, ethnicity, religious affiliation(s) in each article mentioning a Congressperson and construct those patterns as well? Sorry, I'd like to think on my own.

When every vote on a bill lands along party lines you might want to begin to suspect that party affiliation matters quite a bit.

> I know things are super polarized now, but even 20 years ago, when mentioning a Congressperson regarding a particular social problem, they would specify if he was a Democrat/Republican.

When articles always mention party affiliation, people will judge the politician's behavior based on the affiliation, and not on his actions.

Re: Kagi News

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Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

Maybe you should read the article before you assume how it works. It’s pretty clear and AI is specifically mentioned.

Re: Kagi News

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I'm genuinely asking, but have you tried it? https://kite.kagi.com It actually seems more like an aggregator (like ground.news) to me. And pretty much every single sentence cites the original article(s). There are nice summaries within an article. I think what they mean is that they generate a meta-article after combining the rest of them. There's nothing novel here. But the presentation of the meta-article and publi…

Publishing once a day to remove the "slot machine dopamine hit" is worth it for that alone. I have forever been looking for a peer/replacement to Google News, I was about to pony up for a Ground News subscription but I'll probably hold off for a couple more months. Alternatives to google news have been sorely lacking for over a decade, especially since google news got their mobile-first redesign which significantly a…

I don't understand how this once-per-day thing, very obviously a cost-cutting measure, can be taken seriously as a "feature". Stories evolve throughout the day. If this is truly important to you, just screen shot Google News, then look at the screen shot all day.

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When they started developing this they were looking for a Flutter developer. Here is my code challenge submission, in case any one is curious about what it would look like as a Flutter project: https://github.com/SpeerJ/Kite-Code-Challenge-for-Kagi

I had a little trouble imagining myself using this in particular but I'm a big fan of the search engine.

Re: Kagi News

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It seems a challenging situation.. if you pay fact checkers you get accused of censorship by “weaponised free speech” and if you leave it to the community you get inconsistent results.

The first one sounds like it's an argument made by someone who never wanted the facts to begin with. Correcting misinformation is not stifling free speech. I'm all for more proper fact checkers, backed by reputable sources.

Yes, this is the case. Fact checkers were kept alive by efforts of the big tech firms. Post Trump’s election, funding has been pulled globally.
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