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UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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post #241

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Is there something about digital IDs that make them easier to issue than passports? I understand what you are saying that they could have benefits but is that an inherent problem with passports or just bureaucracy?

UK passports cost almost £100, so a lot of people aren't going to get one unless they need to go abroad. I'd expect a required UK digital ID to be free at point of issue (otherwise there's not much point in it).

> UK passports cost almost £100, so a lot of people aren't going to get one unless they need to go abroad.

Sounds like the UK government doesn’t have a history of making it easy to obtain identification.

> I'd expect a required UK digital ID to be free at point of issue

Where do you expect this point of issue to be and why do you expect it to be free? Is there any precedent to support your assumption?

It sounds like you’re advocating for cheap or readily available government ID. I see no reason why digital ID is uniquely or even well suited for either purpose.

> (otherwise there's not much point in it).

Well the point of the digital ID could be to further marginalize vulnerable communities by not providing easy access to the ID while also making it a requirement for participation in society.

Take a look at the southern United States for inspiration on that approach.

This is exactly the reason Americans (as students of history) are generally resistant to the idea of government identification.

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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post #248

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As if this wasn't possible before digital ID was introduced. The only difference was that you got a conscription notice after you tried to leave and realised that you can't.

Blocking all the banks and everything? Nope it wasn't possible. You need to build a lot of tech first to implement digital Gulag.

unless you are 100% card-less you can already get locked out of banks easily. Your digital ID already exists, it's just that you don't have a card with it yet.

As others stated: KYC killed private banking. Good.

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Why do services need to verify identity? What service needs a solution to verify identity that doesn't already exist? Banks do KYC now. Employers already need a National Insurance number to employ someone. Benefits get paid to a named payee. Emergency healthcare needs no insurance and waiting lists come via a GP who indeed knows me. What service needs a further centralised deposit of power over identity?

In Australia (and many other countries), we need to KYC when we get a new mobile plan. This makes sense: you can do a lot of criming with a 'dark' phone number. Predictably enough, then... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Optus_data_breach > In September 2022, Australian telecommunications company Optus suffered a data breach that affected up to 10 million current and former customers comprising a third of Australi…

You can do a lot of criming with a pair of shoes. Some might argue that shoes are essential for many types of crime.

When will we KYC shoes?

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