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Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by neilv »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #324

I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.

I agree. And we should also be similarly conscientious about the privacy of everyone else as well.

(Even though respecting privacy would mean that a massive number of HN techbros would quickly be unemployed.)

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by hopelite »

truncate wrote: post #329
idiotsecant wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does the city care? Whether it gets towed or moved by the owner it's still gone

Fines are big source of revenue for MTA. Citation would be $110 something, and if it gets towed its additional $700 for first X hours and then more later.

The OP example ticket in his info is for something like $480

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by dymk »

what wrote: post #370
greyface- wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be noted that SFMTA, the alleged victim of this website, uses a network of 400+ Flock ALPR cameras to track the movement of every vehicle in the region. They're able to do this not because of some special agency authority, but because it's legal for anyone to surveil public areas.

How is that relevant? Do they publish the exact location of every vehicle in real time?

They keep that data for themselves, they don’t even tell you how much data they have on you.

Why is it unfair that they also be tracked?

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by bobanrocky »

RS-232 wrote: post #327
jcalvinowens wrote: post #324

I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.

I disagree. There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. Things like this website, body cameras, and FOIA requests are all for the public good. Expose corruption and keep everyone safer with a little accountability.

Thats a silly observation. Reasonable privacy is a reasonable expectation for anyone in the US.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by EasyMark »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #324

I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.

We'd probably care if they weren't tracking us whenever they get a chance.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by brianxq3 »

dodos wrote: post #341
gregschlom wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know you only get a ticket if you're actually parked there when the sweeper comes by. There's a parking cop car following the sweeper and ticketing the cars. You're allowed to re-park in the street after the sweeper has done its job, even if it's still technically street sweeping time. So if you've got a ticket, there almost certainly was a sweeper that came by at that time.

Pretty sure it varies depending on where you live. iirc When I was in SF the tickets would get distributed ahead of time and the sweeper would follow within an hour or so. Once the sweeper went by you were free to re-park.

In Oakland, there are different vehicles that come by for different purposes. As I understand it there’s an agitator, sprayer, and sweeper. You have to know when the whole process is complete, so I understand it’s easier just to avoid for the whole window.

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Post by brigandish »

_2d30 wrote: post #252
throwaway93626 wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. I wonder if it might be a bimodal distribution - peaks for the super poor and the super wealthy. Of course, there are more poor than wealthy, so maybe you'd need to look at the rate per capita for different income brackets.

Maybe but honestly your logic doesn’t really make any sense to me anyway. If my time is worth $10k/hr, why am I driving myself? That alone is a huge waste of money. My only knowledge of significant parking ticket acquisition from upper classes comes from lawyers outside courthouses. I tried looking for reporting on this but it may have just been a hyper local thing to where I grew up.

Could be family, I knew the daughter of a wealthy man who used to park wherever she liked and would pay the tickets without a second thought. I never asked her about it, but given what I remember of her (very personable and naive) she probably didn't see it as a problem, she just paid them and that was it.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by throwmeaway222 »

RS-232 wrote: post #327
jcalvinowens wrote: post #324

I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.

I disagree. There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. Things like this website, body cameras, and FOIA requests are all for the public good. Expose corruption and keep everyone safer with a little accountability.

Then you should also have no problem with an app that helps people spot and identify people that break into cars, imo a much larger problem in SF than parking spot thieves.
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