I feel like I’m in the wrong business lol
Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
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Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
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"Arc isn’t just a Chromium fork. It runs on custom infrastructure we call ADK — the Arc Development Kit. Think of it as an internal SDK for building browsers (especially those with imaginative interfaces). That’s our secret sauce. It lets ex-iOS engineers prototype native browser UI quickly, without touching C++." https://open.substack.com/pub/browsercompany/p/letter-to-arc...
A UI framework? What’s the other $608m for?
Just like the old Carlin joke. Made me chuckle.
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How often has that ever been a good decision? It got them acquired, so certainly it worked for them this time. > doing the hard work of building a great product How often has that ever been a good decision?
You're assuming that Dia is what Atlassian wanted in this acquisition, and nothing else. We don't know what things would look like if they had continued developing Arc. Almost every successful company has got there by grinding away on hard problems. No one launches a product and gets endless growth for free. Not to say that Arc would have definitely succeeded, but to date it's been a lot more successful than Dia.
> You're assuming that Dia is what Atlassian wanted in this acquisition
I thought it was an acquihire.
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#374The strategic insight behind Arc was perfect – your browser IS the Operating System, and so we should build a browser that can function as that platform. Arc had pretty good market validation with early adopters, they say that growth was flattened out but IMO that's normal for most products, and it's up to the company to find out WHY growth flattened and then solve that problem. Not kill the product and chase some en…
> The strategic insight behind Arc was perfect – your browser IS the Operating System, and so we should build a browser that can function as that platform. Marc Andreessen said famously (or at least is paragraphed as saying) in 1994 that the "Browser is the Operating System" and people have been doing riffs on that since then. https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/22/always... https://www.theguardian.com…
> Marc Andreessen said famously (or at least is paragraphed as saying) in 1994 that the "Browser is the Operating System" and people have been doing riffs on that since then.
Isn't that downstream of Sun Microsystems’ old slogan: The Network is the Computer?
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> having managed to get their swift-centric development working on _Windows_. That's a huge and difficult undertaking! im not a swift expert, but building your project for one of the officially supported targets shouldn't be considered a "phenomenal" achievent? lol
I recall something about them trying to get SwiftUI working on Windows, which would've been a pretty big thing indeed. No idea if they ever did or how exactly they built the Windows UI in the end.
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Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#376I've been trying to find a Chrome replacement since they finally cut the cord on manifest v2. I know Firefox is the "right" option, and I'm fully in favour of chipping away at Chromium marketshare (even if the EU is determined to solidify it further with demands of Apple to allow non-Safari rendering in iOS) but I've used it in the past, and even if it's fine 99% of the time, there is that occasional website that has…
Maybe you should try Zen. Like Firefox, it's one of the few browsers that use Gecko, but it also aims to have modern design sensibilities similar to Arc. Or if you want to use non-Chromium WebKit, try Orion.
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The strategic insight behind Arc was perfect – your browser IS the Operating System, and so we should build a browser that can function as that platform. Marc Andreessen said famously (or at least is paragraphed as saying) in 1994 that the "Browser is the Operating System" and people have been doing riffs on that since then. https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/22/always... https://www.theguardian.com…
> Marc Andreessen said famously (or at least is paragraphed as saying) in 1994 that the "Browser is the Operating System" and people have been doing riffs on that since then. Isn't that downstream of Sun Microsystems’ old slogan: The Network is the Computer ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Network_is_the_Computer
AFAICT, Sun’s underlying vision was more on the side of pervasive RPC and/or downloadable code, i.e. closer to DCOM or NeWS than HTTP.
(We have in fact ultimately ended up layering downloadable code on top of HTTP. I don’t think I like the results, yet some of the things I don’t like seem inherent to downloadable code in general.)
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
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How much do you think it costs to hire people?
you think Mark didn't know it when he hired that guy for $250 millions? Anyway, you probably mean an individual hiring cost. Which is a totally different case from hiring and building a multifunctional team of 100. Look around at aqui-hires to understand the price, especially when we're talking about people who has been working with AI products.
$250 million was for a top researcher with more experience than almost anyone else in designing and training massive models.
As far as I know, Dia just calls OpenAI’s API. I’m sure their employees know a lot about using AI at this point, but so does everyone else who’s built an OpenAI wrapper.
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#379People I respect like it but Google is a non starter and always was for me. Still sad to see no diversity in the browser space. I’m convinced the web, app stores, and HTTP all have to go.
Re: Atlassian is acquiring The Browser Company
#380It has been so tragic to see the unforced downfall of this company. Arc is such an amazing browser that really did some new and interesting things. They clearly have some phenomenal talent on the team, having managed to get their swift-centric development working on _Windows_. That's a huge and difficult undertaking! And they threw it away to work on (probably) the CEO's new fixation and threw Arc away like an old to…
> having managed to get their swift-centric development working on _Windows_. That's a huge and difficult undertaking! im not a swift expert, but building your project for one of the officially supported targets shouldn't be considered a "phenomenal" achievent? lol
Considering TBC hired the one guy doing anything with Swift on Windows and paid for much of the work needed to make Windows an officially supported platform, it was still an achievement. I'm not even sure I'd call Windows officially supported since most of the support comes from TBC and not Apple or official Swift channels.