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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by imiric »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

What a ridiculous stance.

Do you lock your front door, or use passwords on any of your accounts? Because what you're essentially saying is that you're OK with strangers having access to your personal information. That's beyond the already flawed "I have nothing to hide" argument.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by j4hdufd8 »

skylurk wrote: post #349
rs186 wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail used to serve ads based on your emails for many years until 2017. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/26/534451513...

And in 2010 they made https the default. Different times :)

I don't think https is responsible for that. Google owns the data, it doesn't matter how it is transported. It does, however, matter how it is stored (which I hope is encrypted in a way only you can retrieve it)

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Post by ceroxylon »

Deegy wrote: post #338
bluecalm wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might optimize learning to weight novel/unexpected parts more in the future. The better the models become (the more the expect) the more value they will get from unexpected/new ideas.

Good point. But can the models even behave that way? They depend on probability. If they put a greater weight on novel/unexpected outputs don't they just become undependable hallucination machines? Despite what some people think, these models can't reason about a concept to determine it's validity. They depend on recurring data in training to determine what might be true. That said, it would be interesting to see a m…

Temperature plays a large role in fine tuning model output, you're correct that there is a theoretical sweet spot:

https://towardsdatascience.com/a-comprehensive-guide-to-llm-...

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by londons_explore »

12ian34 wrote: post #356
ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

not remotely worried about leaks, hacks, or sinister usage of your data?

I would far prefer the service use my data to work better and take a few privacy risks.

People die all the time from cancer or car accidents. People very rarely die from data leaks.

Some countries like Sweden make people's private financial data public information - and yet their people seem happier than ever. Perhaps privacy isn't as important as we think for a good society.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by franga2000 »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

Try living in a place with privatised health insurance and you'll quickly see why medical data is some of the most important to keep private.

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Post by troad »

danans wrote: post #368
troad wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original meaning of sane is "physically healthy". Its usual modern meaning is "mentally healthy". You're using it to mean "reasonable". At which exact point is language prohibited from evolving, and why it super coincidentally the exact years you learnt it?

> At which exact point is language prohibited from evolving Never? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change

Yes, that was my point.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

imiric wrote: post #371
ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

What a ridiculous stance. Do you lock your front door, or use passwords on any of your accounts? Because what you're essentially saying is that you're OK with strangers having access to your personal information. That's beyond the already flawed "I have nothing to hide" argument.

> Do you lock your front door

In trusted neighborhoods? No. But that respect goes both ways.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by bilsbie »

I’m generally a privacy maniac on most issues but I like the idea in playing my part in training future AI’s.

As long as they’re up front about it, it seems ok. Maybe providing a privacy toggle would be good.

It’s also good as it forces corporations to invest in offline LLM’s which is better for everyone.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by cozzyd »

bubblyworld wrote: post #255
the_arun wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Anthropic communication: > If you’re an existing user, you have until September 28, 2025 to accept the updated Consumer Terms and make your decision. If you choose to accept the new policies now, they will go into effect immediately. These updates will apply only to new or resumed chats and coding sessions. After September 28, you’ll need to make your selection on the model training setting in order to continue…

Under the FAQ: > Previous chats with no additional activity will not be used for model training.

they can ... generate activity :)

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by [deleted] »

troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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