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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by dakiol »

johntb86 wrote: post #275
dakiol wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

How do you get your tickets? Do you just buy in person at the theater or ballpark?

I expressed myself wrong. I do purchase tickets online. Then I just remember the day. No calendar. I don’t take advantage of the digital assets (email confirmation, etc)

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by Cyph0n »

zamadatix wrote: post #132
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

It's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big…

It’s a HN meme at this point. For as long as I can remember, almost every single phone announcement on this site inevitably gets a bunch of comments about how it’s too big and how a smaller version would sell like hotcakes. You would think that phone manufacturers would have figured this out by now, but what do they know.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by laleck »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

For #2, on iOS, you can move photos to shared albums and then safely delete them from library while retaining them in shared album. Shared albums use iCloud space, so it’s not ideal.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by dns_snek »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #363
pferde wrote: post #344

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You might want to take a gander at this list: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Looks like the list includes those apps that require access to Google Play services - which defeats the entire point of the OP wanting the privacy.

GrapheneOS sandboxes Google Play services, it's just a regular app without any special privileges. You can remove all of its permissions.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by tshaddox »

izacus wrote: post #120
meowkit wrote: post #112

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As someone who prefers iphones… - iPhone wobble is real. Mostly mitigated by a proper case. Does the iPhone get a better camera in return? Usually in my experience. - I don’t sort my photos. The semantic search has been sufficient, and I back everything up to my NAS via an iCloud docker shim. - Chrome/chromium is adware garbage now. FireFox is the only browser I use. The FS API does sound great though. Enviable given…

Pixel phones have won blind camera tests last few years without Apple coming close though.

This is because iPhone photos are ubiquitous which causes photos from less common phones to stand out. And the less common phones likely optimize for this A/B test scenario by e.g. increasing contrast and saturation. Meanwhile Apple likely has little to no interest in optimizing for A/B tests with minor smartphone players, and instead optimizes merely for delivering satisfying photos in the widest range of scenarios.

Pixel photos are very good too, for the record. I just think the "blind camera test" is worthless.

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Post by IT4MD »

OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #227
IT4MD wrote: post #179

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They also screw up the hardware. When I use a fingerprint scanner on other phones, it works. When I used it on my last Pixel (6 or 7, I cant remember) it failed over half the time. How does one screw up biometrics this badly? Lack of care/QA on a $1k device. GL with your Pixel. Note: I'm not an Apple fan boi. I swap every couple of years so I maintain skills in both OSes.

If it was the Pixel 6, I can attest that the 6 (at least the 6 Pro XL) had issues with the fingerprint scanner. I had no issues with my 5 series (when the fingerprint scanner was on the back) but the 6 series always gave me trouble. I'd wager a guess the reason why was because it was the first generation with an under-display fingerprint scanner and they hadn't yet worked out the quirks. I've since upgraded to a 9 se…

How much of your money for the pixel 6 garbage did they refund?

Same here.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by dakiol »

cm2012 wrote: post #121
dakiol wrote: post #57

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> I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. It's probably just me (or a few like me) but I don't really keep my life in digital format as much as others (and I…

I dont think I have left my house without my phone in 5+ years.

I used to take my phone with me all the time (I used to have an iphone mini). The current models are too big. They are nice when i’m on the sofa surfing the web, but a hassle to take then in my pocket

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Post by Dylan16807 »

wijwp wrote: post #262
coldpie wrote: post #230

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> yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them I don't buy this. The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold 6 million units in a year. That's about half the rate of Google's entire Pixel lineup. The market is small, yeah, but it definitely exists. I think a company could quietly make a high quality, straightforward, small Android device with maybe every-other-…

You can't just look at units sold, you have to look at net units sold because the version of the product existed. For example, if 5.9 million of those 6 million people would have bought the larger iPhone model anyway, then you didn't actually gain much by offering the Mini unit. I have no idea what those numbers are, though.

That's an important analysis but it's answering a different question from whether the product would sell enough to make a nice profit.

And it only works when there are notable deficits in competition. Otherwise a company with less to cannibalize would make the smaller model and get themselves 3-6 million sales.

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Post by Rohansi »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #277
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I’d prefer the photo organization behavior you describe, but I don’t want websites to ever be dipping into the local filesystem outside of heavily siloed areas reserved for web apps exclusively. I don’t want the browser to even be capable of it, because regardless of what permissions and security measures are put in place, someone is going to find a way around them. The only exception I can see making for filesystem…

> I don’t want the browser to even be capable of it, because regardless of what permissions and security measures are put in place, someone is going to find a way around them.

You surely trust the permissions and security measures your phone provides to apps so what makes browsers worse in this area? Especially if you're using iOS where you only have Apple's web browser available to use.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by maples37 »

no_wizard wrote: post #284
moelf wrote: post #173

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>Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google https://grapheneos.org/

As a consumer, I lament most of all about Pixel devices (or any other Android device really) that I have to wipe the OS and install a different one to get features that matter to me, particularly around privacy. Thats why I don't use Pixel devices, or any Android devices really. I know its a precarious situation with Apple since they could reverse their stance at any point and sometimes they get it wrong, but they ha…

Apparently the GrapheneOS folks are talking with an OEM[0], which would allow you to buy a phone with a secure, private, non-spyware operating system straight from the factory.

I already own a Pixel running GrapheneOS, but if this happens I'll probably order one as soon as they come out to cast a vote with my wallet.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44678411

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