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Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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post #305

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You have to advertise to some degree otherwise no one will even know what your product is

Id like to believe people have enough agency to do a google search to at least figure out their options, but granted, I might be wrong about that. Edit: I do agree you should have a google-findable website which lists the objective characteristics of your product. If you call that advertising (I call it a "release", and I reserve the word "ad" for anything that has emotional appeal and caters to the indifferent/uninf…

Hoping people stumble on to page 3 of Google to find your thing isn't sustainable so you need some kind of advertising.

You need someway to get whatever your selling into a place where people buy things

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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post #257

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If nobody knows about your product, nobody will buy it. If nobody buys it, you haven't created any value.

I think you just explained why my software engineering career was always so disappointing. I was not getting my "product" to the right eyeballs. I also think maybe I just wasn't cut out for the work in certain ways. I'm a fantastic coder, but so little of the work these days depends on fantastic coding skills! In fact, it's not even that important to companies. What top devs do is manage complexity, but I've always h…

> I've always hated corporate complexity because most of it seems contrived.

It is contrived, but it’s usually contrived on behalf of the person who signs your checks, in my experience. Process exists to serve the owners not the worker bees.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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> if they've seen your content 1,000x vs a couple of long reads. [..] From there, you can capture their email to touch them on another channel (inbox), push them to your YouTube / Twitter / community, etc. The endless game of catching people's attention. Focus on actual value creation? Nah, let's just mind-hack everyone into buying the product. It works, it's obviously a game worth billions, but I find it deeply depr…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44930602.

> Focus on actual value creation? Nah, let's just mind-hack everyone into buying the product.

> I find it deeply depressing

Please don't fulminate on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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The posts I see most often on LinkedIn are ones that try to capture a trope of "flipping expectations" that people associate with great business people. Silly, inane conclusions are made about everyday events so that people who are startlingly mediocre can cling to them as a differentiating factor. Basic politeness is sold as the secret hack to become the next Steve Jobs. Boasts of frugality are made and used to expl…

> Or a quote from Kurt Vonnegut's player piano, "Nobody's so damn well educated that you can't learn ninety per cent of what he knows in six weeks. The other ten per cent is decoration... Almost nobody's competent, Paul. It's enough to make you cry to see how bad most people are at their jobs. If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind." This advice surprises me. With…

which music skills? you can learn enough music theory and pop-song writing skills in a few weekends to pump out club/pop music. Sure, playing instruments is a skill that takes a long time to hone, but anyone can download openMPT or something and toss out music. If money comes in and they want orchestra, there's been things like the Vienna Symphonic Library and the like for decades.

i've written and recorded about a dozen hours worth of music in my life and i assuredly did not go to school for it. The quote is about education, not practice. It also mentions "half-assed job" which is what you get in "six weeks" of work.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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post #249

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This is actually a pretty solid example of a flaw in free market economics. Marketing can increase and decrease knowledge and there's not a strong market force pushing things the right direction.

I thought about what you said and I think you are correct. But since we don't live in an ideal rational world do you agree that without advertisements the market can fail? How would new products even enter the limelight?

I'm not anti-marketing but it does point to a clear example of how consumer protection laws are needed for efficient markets.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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post #341

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Is it bad to use automation?

TBH automation for finding/filtering candidates, but preferably personal email to my inbox. I can tell when you’ve used some cruddy software to send automated follow-ups four times after I didn’t respond to the first message.

I agree - I would expect all follow-ups to be personalized. If my job was a recruiter, I would probably use templates for FAQs to save time.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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The way I look at this is that the Adam Smith-ian free market makes the implicit assumption that market information (pricing, quality) disseminates via neutral, unbiased channels. However, the fact that influencing those channels is itself a commodity that is available on the market, paradoxically affects the operation of the market adversely. If supplier A has a product of quality Q at price P, and supplier B has a…

> The way I look at this is that the Adam Smith-ian free market makes the implicit assumption that market information (pricing, quality) disseminates via neutral, unbiased channels. This couldn’t be more incorrect. In Smith’s day your sources of information would be interpersonal, or one of your local newspapers. Newspapers in the 18th century wore their bias on their sleeves and had very particular world views, they…

Smith's book sits on my bedside stand as I write this. In the hypothetical society he uses in the book (the one with the butcher and the baker), the flow of market information is indeed interpersonal (though he never explicitly states this, to my recollection) and therefore not only carries some level of trust, but is generally peer-to-peer. The state of 18th century news papers and marketing actually supports my point, which is a point that applies to any society with a high level of economic power asymmetry, not just to the modern era.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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post #246

Unlikely as it sounds, being normal is a strategy that works on LinkedIn. The quality bar is very low. People post so much fluff and AI thought leadership that the algorithm has recently started rejecting it, and LinkedIn essentially ran out of content. For the past couple of months it's been showing people posts from two or three weeks ago due to the lack of suitable material. What I've found is that it's surprising…

Hah, I would actually like to know why finding clothes for men is so hard.
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