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Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by Dylan16807 »

yubblegum wrote: post #276
mystraline wrote: post #274

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> Many of us did in fact, in this very forum, kept pointing out that dumping on GPL (and the man and his ideas behind it) was a mistake and that non-gpl oss was for chumps. And we were greyed to oblivion. I'm not entirely sure that was intentional. On Reddit, it would be called 'brigading', and basically getting your corpo-techbros to -4 and flagkill posts. If done fast enough, you only need 5 500+ karma accounts to…

The fact that the management of this forum, who are VCs, permitted such a mechanism is part of the "own it, HN" assertion. HN has baked in something like 'peter principle' into the forum. Karma Grifters who post articles that get them over the 500 points are then ala Peter Principle granted the right to 'grey out' actual thoughtful comments. Are you telling the management of this outfit never looked into this phenome…

> Karma Grifters who post articles that get them over the 500 points are then ala Peter Principle granted the right to 'grey out' actual thoughtful comments.

You've stretched that analogy past the breaking point. Downvotes barely change your role and there's nowhere else to go up from there regardless of your posting quality. Peter Principle does not apply.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by Dylan16807 »

krapp wrote: post #362
rcxdude wrote: post #361

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>If a tech giant wants you open-source library, they will just point their agent to it and ask "to rewrite in the style of War and Peace" Is there any evidence of this happening? And any legal theory behind how it might have the intended effect? Training being fair use does not make AI a magical copyright-removal box.

AI is already "too big to fail" in every conceivable way. If there is a conflict between AI and the law, then the law will inevitably be rewritten, reinterpreted or repealed in the way most beneficial to the service of AI.

I expect a lot of leniency when it's something actually important to making AI work.

Training on most of the data in the world is important. Rewriting a document you don't own is not important. Or depending on what level the objection is made at, stealing some random library is not important.

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Post by aaron695 »

mystraline wrote: post #275
pentamassiv wrote: post #27

Hey, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for submitting this. If you have any questions feel free to ask and please let me know how the writing was. It's one of my first posts so I'd like to improve

You should change the license to AGPL and 'custom, contact for payment details', and provide a link to this as why you did so. Simply put, anything not a viral license like GPL allows parasitization by companies effectively living off FLOSS devs, with absolutely nothing to gain. Human rights under GPL were meant to apply to humans, not '3 lawyers in a trench coat' (corporations). They can make their decisions (snubbi…

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Post by forrestthewoods »

skeezyboy wrote: post #246
petcat wrote: post #194

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None of those people ever applied for a job at Big Corp where one of the most important aspects is to be able to work well with other people and tactfully navigate the social structure of the company.

being a dick has not hindered there prospects. id argue dickheads are more prevalent in tech due to the prevalence of autism

Not everyone is a great fit for big companies. Not everyone is a great fit for startups. Not everyone is great at being a small business owner. And not everyone is great at being a regular employee.

Point is that Linus would be fucking miserable and ineffective at a generic BigTech co. He’d hate every second of it. And that’s ok!

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Post by [deleted] »

mystraline wrote: post #299
foxglacier wrote: post #286

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Some people want others to freely use their software and choose MIT precisely because it's more free than GPL. There's nothing wrong with just making something for free and giving it away if that's what you want. Not everybody has to be chasing money in all their activities. The author said he was proud of this outcome and nervous at how widely his hobby project will be deployed. That sounds like the ambition of many…

> Some people want others to freely use their software and choose MIT precisely because it's more free than GPL. MIT license is absolutely not 'more free' than the GPL. In fact, MIT means you give up effective ownership and control. You lose control and contributions. And what do you get for that loss of control? Exposure. Or, in this and many other cases similar, you get diddly shit. Some company paracitizes your co…

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Post by gessha »

motorest wrote: post #211
lesser-shadow wrote: post #135

Also I low how the IT hiring has a become a paradox: Companies won't hire you if you don't have enough projects in your portfolio, but by the time you will have enough stars on your github projects they have already used you to their own goals and are "not interested".

I think you are making up scenarios in your head to try to rationalize away why you have a bad time at job interviews.

What interviews?

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Post by motorest »

m-s-y wrote: post #264
motorest wrote: post #163

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> Homebrew is “just” a package manager, not the core of part of Google. Yes, this. Sometimes I wonder if those coming up with the Homebrew example have any experience whatsoever with software development. I mean, sure the project is popular and surely doesn't hurt on a resume. But does it showcase any level of technical expertise or mastery? No, I'm afraid not. I would bet that the majority of software engineers woul…

>does it showcase any level of technical expertise or mastery? No, I'm afraid not. But it does show that he can develop and ship a popular product, something outside the capability of so many “great engineers”. Good luck generating any revenue on the backs of smart engineers that have no stomach for understanding the nuance of development over and above writing and checking in code.

> But it does show that he can develop and ship a popular product, something outside the capability of so many “great engineers”.

Does it, though? I mean, the key differentiating factor is being able to stomach the cloud infrastructure costs. The vast majority of cloud engineers already work on far more complex systems as part of their day-to-day activities. What exactly do you think that putting together something a kin to a file hosting service places you above any other candidate?

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Post by rglynn »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #278
senko wrote: post #64

The author should have just asked the friend of a friend for a warm intro instead of trying to go through the main gate. Sucks, but that's the reality of hiring (and getting hired) in tech in general.

My experience with Anthropic and OpenAI is they’re not super interested in experience and don’t take internal references very seriously. Most of who I know that was hired were fairly junior folks and they have an early weed out that’s a fairly rudimentary but very specific Python programming quiz typically administered by very junior (like 1-2 years out of school) - even when interviewing extremely senior and experie…

I'm glad you shared this, I had been considering Anthropic but this really leaves a sour taste.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by motorest »

zem wrote: post #332
motorest wrote: post #227

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> I hope that this Hacker News post will get to one of the key people at Anthropic and they change their minds. Honest question: what leads you to believe they should change their mind?

first of all because the key point is they didn't even look at his application, and by any objective criteria he should have easily got through a "worth a human looking at it" screen. but also, hiring the developer of an open source library that you want to use internally and paying them to both integrate the library and work further on it is an excellent way to have a sustainable open source ecosystem, which both an…

> first of all because the key point is they didn't even look at his application (...)

Apparently the only suggestion that OP's application might not have been considered was due to the fact it was filed already too late in the hiring process.

Do you think every hiring process should restart whenever a new applicant sends a resume?

> (...) and by any objective criteria he should have easily got through a "worth a human looking at it" screen.

...unless that stage of the process was closed already? I mean, companies are bound to time frames to fill a position. Do you think it is reasonable to delay a project just because another applicant applied to a position?

> but also, hiring the developer of an open source library that you want to use internally and paying them to both integrate the library and work further on it is an excellent way to have a sustainable open source ecosystem, which both anthropic and the developer will benefit from.

Are you sure about that? I mean, I'm yet to work at a company where a software engineer position is so reductive and constrained that a developer has a single very specialized responsibility. Taking your personal opinion at face value, do you believe a project team draws any value in hiring the maintainer of a whole tech stack if all they are looking for is someone to implement a dialog box here or there?

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