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Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by BlueTemplar »

navane wrote: post #364
aisenik wrote: post #326

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It is essential to understand the concepts involved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide And then you can take your pick of media outlets. The Office Of Remigration is happening, they aren't hiding it. For example: https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/29/politics/rubio-lays-out-detai... This is just one clear-cut example of the adminis…

On these wiki definitions: Ethnic cleansing: "with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killings as a means of depopulating an area of a particular group" "Mass killings" is a big detail which is hard to overlook. If we can't agree where ethnic cleansing includes mass killing it's hard too agree if ethnic cleansing is taking place. Personally, ethnic cleansing to me sounds lik…

I'm guessing that they want to keep 'genocide' for the worst cases ? While others want a more general term including it ?

I think some also tried to push for the term 'ethnocide' for when mass killings were not involved ?

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Post by BlueTemplar »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #215
ben_w wrote: post #185

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That a Ukraine loss is seen as the end of a free Europe (because Russia wouldn't stop at least until at least DDR Germany borders), is why the other European nations are collectively increasing military spending. For a sense of scale (only scale, money is definitely not the most important criteria), the EU currently spends twice as much on their military as Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with…

It makes no sense whatsoever for Russia to attack more states than Ukraine. The sole reason Russia invaded Ukraine was that it was flirting too much with NATO. Putin might be a lunatic, but he is not stupid.

Putin (et al.) has already proven to be stupid : the invasion of Ukraine was going quite well for him since 2014, he could have continued salami slicing it while the EU was still mostly asleep (and not willing to make a fuss as a Russian hydrocarbons importer).

But no, he went for a 'quick' victory instead, and ended up bogged in a much higher intensity war, made the Russian military a laughing stock, and kicked the EU/Nato bees nest so hard that another 2 countries immediately joined NATO.

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Post by Hikikomori »

e40 wrote: post #45
Hikikomori wrote: post #34

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Racists were just temporarily embarrassed by the civil war.

Were they? If so, embarrassed about what? Losing it?

I think they and right wingers are only embarrassed by losing, it explain their behaviour.

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Post by BlueTemplar »

jajko wrote: post #200
jordanb wrote: post #131

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In Europe, "hard focus on socialism" would mean something akin to the USSR.

I am not aware of any party that could hope to win elections in their county pushing for anything close to this ?

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Post by BlueTemplar »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #273
FergusArgyll wrote: post #257

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> How are these people our elected officials? It’s unbelievable. Because they know that the vast majority of people advocating for climate change to be a high priority issue is because they want to use that to slow down capitalism - the system that made the US the country they love. I never hear growth-minded solutions for climate change: Let's get rich enough so everyone (even European hotels) can afford AC? Drug co…

> Because they know that the vast majority of people advocating for climate change to be a high priority issue is because they want to use that to slow down capitalism Is this really what you think? That the people concerned about climate change are really just interested in changing economic policy? The real motives of environmentalists is to erode capitalism? Respectfully: that's nuts. > Let's get rich enough so ev…

Worse, AC in cities is counterproductive because it noticeably raises the surrounding temperature.

(And then it's the poorest people, those that cannot afford AC, and there will always be some (starting with the homeless), that suffer because of it.)

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Post by pstuart »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #319
Dumblydorr wrote: post #281

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Nice theory, however you’re believing people vote for their best interests, and the above comment believes they’re deluded by misinformation. I think both are occurring. Young white men went GOP, why is that? Anti vaxx leftists went with Kennedy, why is that? Why do anti-immigration and pro-economics claim the top two republican policy slots, when they’re firmly opposed in their effects on the economy? This is the co…

> Why do anti-immigration and pro-economics claim the top two republican policy slots Pro-economics? This admin can’t tell supply from demand. Anti-immigration, definitely.

> Anti-immigration, definitely.

Hold on -- the regime recently welcomed refugees from Africa! If only we could understand why that group, versus the ones they're actively deporting. If only there was some pattern, a clue or hint as to what matters to them...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/12/trump-administratio...

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Post by pstuart »

epgui wrote: post #351
lotsofpulp wrote: post #335

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I don’t see a way to avoid population decline, assuming women have freedom and access to 100% effective birth control. The whole process of pregnancy/birth//breastfeeding/infant rearing sucks, so that most women will opt for 1 or 2, max. Then you have to account for all the men and women who opt to stay single (or queer or whatever). The number of women that need to have more than 2 kids to offset those with 0 and 1…

Immigration.

Yes, that's part of it but helping to ease the economic burden of child rearing would definitely help.

The documentary Idiocracy has some interesting insights into the issue -- it's worth the watch.

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Post by jskelly »

fnordian_slip wrote: post #222
4gotunameagain wrote: post #215

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It makes no sense whatsoever for Russia to attack more states than Ukraine. The sole reason Russia invaded Ukraine was that it was flirting too much with NATO. Putin might be a lunatic, but he is not stupid.

The sole reason Germany annexed Czechoslovakia was was that there were atrocities being committed against the Sudeten[0]. He even made a speech at the Sportpalast in Berlin in which he stated that the Sudetenland was "the last territorial demand I have to make in Europe". So all's fine, and we don't have to worry about Germany. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_Munich

The article you cite says nothing about the /alleged/ [by Hitler as a pretext for annexation] atrocities against Sudeten Germans. The expulsion of Germans from Czechoslovakia _after_ World War II was an ugly chapter, but really -- there were no 'atrocities' being committed against that population /before/ the war. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_German_uprising

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Post by hollerith »

Buttons840 wrote: post #369
hollerith wrote: post #339

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"Exports" is hiding a lot of complexity here. Some export statistics might add the entire price of an iPhone to the export figure for China because that is where the final assembly is done even though (like my previous comment shows) about half of the money from that sale ends up in the hands of Apple's investors, US-based employees of Apple and such US-based suppliers as the companies that built Apple's headquarters…

If we go away back the argument was that the US has no real exports. You've been arguing that phones are an export, but you admit those are built by other countries. It seems fair that the country that makes a phone and then exports it would be given credit for that in the statistics. I'm not sure what the point of this thread is anymore, so I'll stop here.

So it is immaterial to you that Foxconn gets about $5 per iPhone sold and Apple get about $500?

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Post by dyauspitr »

dgb23 wrote: post #243

There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption. It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

The payoff is exclusively a whiter America and women back in the kitchen. It’s not complicated and they don’t care about anything else.
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