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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by tiahura »

mattzito wrote: post #363
tiahura wrote: post #298

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As a lawyer, I'm confused. I guess the key question is whether the Gemini CLI, when used with a personal Google account, is governed by the broader Gemini Apps privacy settings here? https://myactivity.google.com/product/gemini?pli=1 If so, it appears it can be turned off. However, my CLI activity isn't showing up there? Can someone from Google clarify?

I am very much not a lawyer, and while I work for Google, I do not work on this, and this is just my plain language reading of the docs. When you look at the github repo for the gemini CLI: https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/tree/main At the bottom it specifies that the terms of service are dependent on the underlying mechanism that the user chooses to use to fulfill the requests. You can use code assist, ge…

Thanks for trying to clarify.

However, as others pointed out, that link take you to here: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... Which, at the bottom says: "If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals." and links to https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/set-up.... That page says "You'll also see a link to the Gemini Code Assist for individuals privacy notice and privacy settings. This link opens a page where you can choose to opt out of allowing Google to use your data to develop and improve Google's machine learning models. These privacy settings are stored at the IDE level."

The issue is that there is no IDE, this is the CLI and no such menu options exist.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

Xmd5a wrote: post #330
GardenLetter27 wrote: post #99

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Google is fumbling the bag so badly with the pricing. Gemini 2.5 Pro is the best model I've used (even better than o3 IMO) and yet there's no simple Claude/Cursor like subscription to just get full access. Nevermind Enterprise users too, where OpenAI has it locked up.

>Gemini 2.5 Pro is the best model It's the second time I read this in this thread. May I ask why you think this is the case? And in which domains? I am very satisfied with 2.5 pro when it comes to philosophical/literary analysis, probably because of the super long context I can fill with whole books, and wanted to try Claude Code for the same purpose, but with folders, summaries, etc to make up for the shorter contex…

I've just found it to be the best in practice, especially for more complicated debugging with code.

But also for text review on posts, etc.

Before Claude had the edge with agentic coding at least, but now even that is slipping.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by sameermanek »

Gemini is by far the most confusing product of all time. The paid version for it is available in 3 forms: 1. Gemini pro (which gets you more google drive storage and some form of access to veo so people obviously get that) 2. Google AI studio, just to piss off redmond devs and which is used by no one outside google 3. This CLI, which has its own plan.

Then there are 3rd party channels, if you have a recent samsung phone, you get 1 yr access to AI features powered by gemini, after which you need to pay. And lord knows where else has google been integrating gemini now.

Ive stopped using google's AI now. Its like they have dozens of teams within gemini on completely different slack sessions.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by danielbln »

jjice wrote: post #361
joshvm wrote: post #337

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Gemini has some fun failure modes. It gets "frustrated" when changes it makes doesn't work, and replies with oddly human phrases like "Well, that was unexpected" and then happily declares that (I see the issue!) "the final tests will pass" when it's going down a blind alley. It's extremely overconfident by default and much more exclamatory without changing the system prompt. Maybe in training it was taught/figured ou…

It also gets really down on itself, which is pretty funny (and a little scary). Aside from the number of people who've posted online about it wanting to uninstall itself after being filled with shame, I had it get confused on some Node module resolution stuff yesterday and it told me it was deeply sorry for wasting my time and that I didn't deserve to have such a useless assistant. Out of curiosity, I told it that I…

After a particular successful Claude Code task I praised it and told it to "let's fucking go!" to which it replied that loved the energy and proceeded to only output energetic caps lock with fire emojis. I know it's all smoke and mirrors (most likely), but I still get a chuckle out of this stuff.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by _ryanjsalva »

ericb wrote: post #331
_ryanjsalva wrote: post #57

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I also work on the product. You can extend the tools with MCP. https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/main/docs/t...

Feedback: A command to add MCP servers like claude code offers would be handy.

100% - It's on our list!

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by nprateem »

ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

I'm not that bothered. Most of it came from Google or anthropic anyway

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by danielbln »

ZeroCool2u wrote: post #287
joelm wrote: post #274

Been using Claude Code (4 Opus) fairly successfully in a large Rust codebase, but sometimes frustrated by it with complex tasks. Tried Gemini CLI today (easy to get working, which was nice) and it was pretty much a failure. It did a notably worse job than Claude at having the Rust code modifications compile successfully. However, Gemini at one point output what will probably be the highlight of my day: "I have made a…

Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base and because Rust has been very low on uptake internally at Google, especially since they have some really nice C++ tooling, Gemini is comparatively bad at Rust.

Interesting, Gemini must be a monster when it comes to Go code then. I gotta try it for that

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by fpgaminer »

joelm wrote: post #274

Been using Claude Code (4 Opus) fairly successfully in a large Rust codebase, but sometimes frustrated by it with complex tasks. Tried Gemini CLI today (easy to get working, which was nice) and it was pretty much a failure. It did a notably worse job than Claude at having the Rust code modifications compile successfully. However, Gemini at one point output what will probably be the highlight of my day: "I have made a…

Claude will do the same start over if things get too bad. At least I've seen it when its edits went haywire and trashed everything.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by nprateem »

tarvaina wrote: post #125
behnamoh wrote: post #67

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Actually, that's the reason a lot of startups and solo developers prefer non-Google solutions, even though the quality of Gemini 2.5 Pro is insanely high. The Google Cloud Dashboard is a mess, and they haven't fixed it in years. They have Vertex that is supposed to host some of their models, but I don't understand what's the difference between that and their own cloud. And then you have two different APIs depending o…

It took me a while but I think the difference between Vertex and Gemini APIs is that Vertex is meant for existing GCP users and Gemini API for everyone else. If you are already using GCP then Vertex API works like everything else there. If you are not, then Gemini API is much easier. But they really should spell it out, currently it's really confusing. Also they should make it clearer which SDKs, documents, pricing,…

Which would all be fine except some models like Imagen 4 only work on vertex.
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