Posting for postarity, I long said everyone needed to stop everything they were doing and we all put 100% of our effort towards AI.
If AI is solved (we don't have AI yet) then many other problems get solved too.
Meta invests $14.3B in Scale AI to kick-start superintelligence lab
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#372I dont understand, why would they make a super-intelligence group instead of something more ambitious like a super-super intelligence group or supreme-mega-intelligence group? Zuck is clearly not thinking this one through.
It's just the same team with a new Slack channel.
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#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
React made quite a mess of the web just so we couldn't browse with JavaScript disabled, thereby allowing Facebook to track us through those like buttons that popped up everywhere. Are there hidden barbs in llama and pytorch too? I'm not close enough to them to know.
React is the defacto standard of web development for a reason. That's not the reason you can't browse the web with JS (it would be Angular if it wasn't React or others). And just because you use React, doesn't mean Meta can track you.
Their point was that (i) React becoming the defacto standard played into the hands of Meta, who are interested in tracking people. (ii) Tracking is made easier by running arbitrary JavaScript in the browser. And (iii) before SPAs were big (pre-React), more people used to completely disable JS in their browser.
Not saying I buy this theory. Just trying to explain what I think they were alluding to, as I had the impression you missed it and went in a different direction.
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#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In real time MetaOshaHelper can identify issues I sort of doubt that most business would want that. Sorry to latch on to one specific thing in an interesting comment. But just imagine having AI tracking in the workplace, e.g. OSHA violations, violations of building code and workplace regulations in general. You'd have shitty manufactures, builders, trucking companies, kitchens, warehouses and everything in between…
Does spell check make writing a book harder? Occasionally you're going to ignore things that get flagged, but I would love an AI to say oh by the way that machine over there isn't latched on correctly and can fall over if not corrected. It's cheaper than paying workers comp.
Sure, but have you see building inspectors on YouTube for instance? The amount of extra work would be insane and much harder to dispute in court.
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What is the VR adding? Nothing but extra hoops to just through to get things done. It gives you maximum immersion into a digital world. Rather than view it through a rectangular 2D window, it can encompass 360 degrees of your vision in full 3D. If you don't see how this would be appealing for consuming content, work, entertainment, etc., then I can't convince you otherwise. VR adoption has always been held back by…
Didn’t people say the same thing about 3D TV?
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#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of all the tech companies, Meta is the most ruthless and shameless. You'd have to be a total fool to trust Zuck, especially Zuck who put billions into AR for not much return and now billions into AI to create lackluster lagging models.
Off base when considering the likes of Palantir and many others. Not a fan of the person or many of Meta's business practices. But Meta has given a lot back with Llama and PyTorch, among many other open source contributions. Which others in the space are not doing.
> Llama [...] among many other open source contributions
Llama is not Open Source. Don't buy Meta's marketing that's trying to dilute the term. Llama is only available under restrictive terms that favor Meta.
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Weird, Meta says it's their Chief AI Scientist [1]. But maybe they're wrong ... 1: https://ai.meta.com/people/396469589677838/yann-lecun/
Cool. So what does a chief AI scientist do?
ideally lead AI science, but in reality mostly pontificate on social media. One could say that is fitting for Meta though right?
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I think everyone is greatly overestimating VR. The thing is, I can imagine some futuristic version of AI that transforms humanity. But with VR, even in my wildest dreams with all the problems solved, it’s still just second best to smartphones and computers. Imagine the perfect headset. Tiny, battery lasts forever, photo-realistic. I would still rather browse the Internet on my phone. I’d rather do my work on my lapto…
> What is the VR adding? Nothing but extra hoops to just through to get things done. It gives you maximum immersion into a digital world. Rather than view it through a rectangular 2D window, it can encompass 360 degrees of your vision in full 3D. If you don't see how this would be appealing for consuming content, work, entertainment, etc., then I can't convince you otherwise. VR adoption has always been held back by…
> If you don't see how this would be appealing for consuming content, work, entertainment, etc., then I can't convince you otherwise.
I don't, legitimately I don't.
Okay, maximum immersion. And how does that help?
Like even just on the surface having a 360 degree view doesn't do anything. Because my eyes are on the front of my head, so I'm going to be looking forward. Stuff behind me doesn't matter much.
Same thing with 3D. Okay... but paper is two-dimensional, you know what I mean? Something being 3D by itself doesn't mean it's better or contains more information or is easier to use. I'd rather read and write on a two-dimensional surface. Reading and writing is the core of a lot of stuff, so there's goes that.
The test for me really is imagining some usecase and then imagining how it would be on super advanced VR. If you try that, you'll find that 90% of usecases just fail compared to already existing technology. Like imagine some perfect VR tech 5,000 years from now. Okay, now a usecase: programming. I would rather program with a keyboard and mouse and a monitor. I don't want to talk to VR. I don't want a dumbass virtual keyboard, that's worse. The 3D stuff makes no difference because I'm reading text. So even with alien technology, my current computer right now would beat it.
With the phones you mention, when we envision some futuristic technology we can see how the phones would be useful. Same thing with TVs - I mean, people were envisioning wall-wide flat screens in the 60s. But when you do that with VR, the product still isn't very good. That's the difference, in my eyes.
Re: Meta invests $14.3B in Scale AI to kick-start superintelligence lab
#379It doesn’t seem at all wise to give the least ethical among us access to a super intelligence. Not trying to single out Zuck specifically, though his challenges with ethics do seem well documented. Rather, I’m speaking about the entire industry. Humanity isn’t demanding this, only those at the top seem to want it, and they seem to want it so they can keep more share of the pie for themselves, and decrease the size of…
Sorry, can you tell me what’s new ?
Sure! It seems they have an actual chance to succeed in their anti-people crusade. That is markedly different than in the past.
Just my 2-cents. Meaningless in the face of it all :)
Re: Meta invests $14.3B in Scale AI to kick-start superintelligence lab
#380This appears to be a psuedo-acquisition, but with a strange format to appease regulators. Will this still be an exit event for employees or do they get screwed here?
Sounds like they're getting paid based on his note to employees: > "The proceeds from Meta's investment will be distributed to those of you who are shareholders and vested equity holders [...] The exceptional team here has been the key to our success, so I'm thrilled to be able to return the favor with this meaningful liquidity distribution." https://x.com/alexandr_wang/status/1933328165306577316
Yes, it is very good for employees and ex-employees.