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Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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Before I put my fedora back on and leave, could you answer this question: Do you truly think the evidence you provided would convince someone ignorant on the matter that there really was a migrant crisis that warrants the Trump administration's behavior?

> Do you truly think the evidence you provided would convince someone ignorant on the matter that there really was a migrant crisis that warrants the Trump administration's behavior?

I do!

The term 'crisis' has been politicized to the point where the term's applicability is basically a shibboleth. When Biden called it a crisis in 2021, the White House issued a statement saying "The President’s use of the “crisis” label doesn’t represent the administration’s official position".[0] The administration had an official position on the use of the term 'crisis'! Point being, it's hard to convince someone that the border situation is a "crisis" when their priors on the topic have been prejudiced by political messaging. If someone was new to the topic, it would be easier for them to be objective.

You and I have already been inundated with political messaging, though. The best way to simulate ignorance on the matter is to abstract away the politics and pose the question in a way that doesn't trigger a connection to politics:

"The year is 2034. A situation has arisen. To deal with the situation, the city of Chicago alone has spent $300 dollars. The mayor of New York City has stated that the issue "could destroy the city of New York". 30% of schools say the issue affects their ability to educate our children. 77% of Americans say the situation is either a "crisis" or a "major issue".

Would someone ignorant of the matter be more justified in assuming that this was reflective of a crisis, or mere "vibes"?

> Before I put my fedora back on and leave

I honestly loled.

[0]https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/19/politics/biden-border-crisis-...

Re: Trump's NASA cuts would destroy decades of science and wipe out its future

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NASA has not been effective in 50 years. Maybe time to try something else?

How are you measuring effectiveness? It seems like you might have a pretty shallow perspective on what NASA does and what their goals are. For example, do you know how many mission directorates they have and how they differ?

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I have no problem with legal immigration - people who have worked hard to become citizens via legal channels, and who love our country. They wouldn't dream of rioting or committing violence, all while waving another country's flag. I have a huge problem with what happened over the last 4 years.

So you're out there protesting that they're deporting Afghans who are here legally, who served alongside our military and would likely be killed if they were sent home, right? https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-...

If he was a citizen, then I would definitely have a problem with it. The problem I see is that asylum claims have been so abused recently that they have become an entitlement rather than an exceptional case. I don't know the specifics of this guy, but a judge ruled in his case to not keep him here. Maybe there's a good reason for that, or maybe the judge is sick of what has transpired over the last 4 years and is over compensating for it. I don't know, but I know things can't continue the way the were going during Biden's term.

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So you're out there protesting that they're deporting Afghans who are here legally, who served alongside our military and would likely be killed if they were sent home, right? https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-...

If he was a citizen, then I would definitely have a problem with it. The problem I see is that asylum claims have been so abused recently that they have become an entitlement rather than an exceptional case. I don't know the specifics of this guy, but a judge ruled in his case to not keep him here. Maybe there's a good reason for that, or maybe the judge is sick of what has transpired over the last 4 years and is ove…

So first you're for legal immigration, and then well, no, not like that. "Do things the proper way" is just a facade for the xenophobia.

The guy worked with the US in Afghanistan. Do you not think he has a real case here? He'll get killed if they send him back.

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Why would you think that a strong Republican majority would say "no" to Trump?

Because they can. Right now they can't. If you think the R party is going along with Trump because of ideological alignment, you'd be wrong. There are very few members that are aligned with him. The current situation is of political survival. Nothing more.

They're going along with him because of political blackmail. Some agree with him, but some know that if they cross him, he's going to have them primaried, and his odds are good at getting rid of them.

But I don't see how more Rs is going to make it less a matter of political survival to back him. He'll still have them primaried if they don't fall in line.

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