The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

Post by nrclark » Mon, May 19, 2025, 7:48 PM UTC

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> Forscan for Ford vehicles also has to run under Windows. I've successfully run it with WINE. Thought, my Forscan executable was 3 years old or so and that may have changed, but I doubt it.

why bring wine into a vm discussion? just run windows in a vm too. problem solved without entering the whining about wine not being better than windows itself

  1. Create the VM image and figure out how to build/deploy it.
  2. Sort out the Windows licensing concerns.
  3. Figure out how to launch my tool (maybe put an SSH server into the VM).
  4. Figure out how to share the filesystem (maybe rsync-on-SSH? Or an SMB fileshare?).

  1. Install some pinned version of Wine.
  2. Install my tool into Wine.
  3. Run it directly.

Post by Dylan16807 » Mon, May 19, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

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>The problem is Windows IO filters Not the biggest issue of them, 'find' and 'git status' on WSL2 in a big project is still >100 times slower on windows dev drive which avoids those filters than it is with WSL 1 on dev drive. WSL 1 on regular ntfs with defender disabled is about 4x slower than WSL1 on dev drive, so that stuff does cause some of it, but WSL2 feels hopelessly slow. And wsl 2 can't share memory as well…

WSL2, in my testing, is orders of magnitude faster at file heavy operations than anything outside WSL, dev drive or not. We have an R&D department that's using WSL2 and jumping through hurdles of forwarding hardware because it's night and day compared to trying under windows on the same machine. It provided other benefits too, but the sheer performance was the main selling point. WSL2 does not take less advantage of…

Post by alex_smart » Mon, May 19, 2025, 7:50 PM UTC

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I preferred WSL to running linux directly even though I had no need for any windows only software. Not having to spend time configuring my computer to make basic things work like suspend/wake on lid down/up, battery life, hardware acceleration for video playback on the browser, display scaling on external monitor and so on was reason enough.

All this usually works out of the box now, especially if you pick your hardware accordingly.

Post by ahartmetz » Mon, May 19, 2025, 7:52 PM UTC

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And if they think that this version of Linux "isn't janky" but regular Linux is, than idk what to say.

With WSL you can use “Linux the good parts” (command line tools, efficient-enough paradigms for fork() servers) and completely avoid X Windows, the Wayland death spiral, 100 revisions of Gnome and KDE that not so much reinvent the wheel but instead show us why the wheel is not square or triangular…

Post by ChocolateGod » Mon, May 19, 2025, 7:54 PM UTC

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Windows supports Linux because the latter is open source, it's a lot easier than the reverse. Linux, on the other hand, barely supports Windows because the latter is closed, and not just closed, windows issues component updates which specifically check if they run in wine and stop running, being actively hostile to a potential Linux host. The two are not equivalent, nobody in the Linux kernel team is actively sabotag…

This. Windows needs to open source its operating system. End of story.