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Post by IIsi50MHz »

albrewer wrote: post #356
boxed wrote: post #320

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The first time I drove in the US I came up to a turn with the yellow speed sign. I was going faster and I could feel my car strain to not go off the road. This is to this day the second scariest thing I've experienced in a car. After that I 100% followed the yellow signs.

I had a similar experience but had an opposite takeaway. I learned that my car, in dry, daylight conditions, could comfortably go 20±5 mph faster around curves than those signs suggest.

Those signs can also be posted as advice for adverse conditions like snow and rain. (Of course, ice = all bets off)

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Post by IIAOPSW »

recursive wrote: post #247
IIAOPSW wrote: post #150

The real problem is that its possible to book meeting rooms back to back when there's supposed to be decompression time in between.

Rooms don't need to decompress.

Right, but its still impossible for any meetings to be back to back (and by extension for any person to be in back to back meetings) if the rooms holding them can't be booked back to back.

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Post by shakna »

bumby wrote: post #362
shakna wrote: post #257

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The world we live in, with the people we live with, require accomodations every single day. Not locking a door allows the students who were delayed on the road by a car accident, as much as the disabled student who took five minutes longer than expected after falling down some stairs. Every single person makes mistakes at times. If those are not absorbed by flexibility, then they go on to affect everyone else connect…

> If the professor is delayed due to a tire puncture, should they lose their tenure? This seems like a false equivalency. The student isn’t getting dropped from their degree program, they’re missing a class. If a professor is late, especially habitually late, I may not advocate for them losing tenure, but I’d certainly expect it to have a smaller impact like being brought up in a performance review.

They're missing a class, yes.

A class that they have paid to access.

A class that the professor would not be teaching, if they did not believe it essential to the degree program.

They are being denied access to something both important, and already paid for.

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Post by Stratoscope »

boxed wrote: post #354
Stratoscope wrote: post #341

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> This is to this day the second scariest thing I've experienced in a car. I have to know! What was the scariest thing?

Going past a line of cars that were backed up and going like ~10 km/h and some guy in a pickup truck suddenly decided to force his way into the line and hit a car so it jumped into my lane by a meter or so. Only time I have ever needed to perform the moose maneuver we are taught in driving school :P I was lucky there was no car in the lane to my right.

Oof!

Here are my two scariest recent ones...

I was driving north on Highway 87 in San Jose in the #2 lane (second lane from the left) when directly in front of me was a big metal rack, standing up in the road! It looked like something you might hang clothes hangers on. Which made it all the worse because it wasn't as visible as a heavier rack.

I hit the brakes and swerved into the #1 lane to avoid it. Luckily no one was in that lane. I try to keep situational awareness of the lanes to my right and left, so I felt pretty sure that no one was in that lane next to me.

The other was driving on northbound El Camino in Menlo Park, in the rightmost lane, at night.

Someone was riding a bike in that lane, dressed all in black (and even a black hoodie), with no lights or reflectors or anything to make himself visible. And he was doing that thing that some young people like to do where they weave back and forth for no reason at all except that it's fun?

Another brake slam and swerve to avoid him. It ended OK but was definitely a white knuckle moment!

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

chairmansteve wrote: post #370
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #255

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> generally to make sure everyone is on the same page If everyone is on the same page then there should be a 'page' resulting from the meeting; something to look back at to represent what everyone agreed on. Those are the 'decisions' being made. The worst meetings are ones where people share ideas, nod their head in agreement, then write nothing down. Inevitably this leads to an identical meeting later down the road,…

"The worst meetings are ones where people share ideas, nod their head in agreement, then write nothing down". In companies where presenteeism is valued, this can be a welcome break from pretending to work.

That's valid. I wonder if those who love scheduling meetings partly do so for this reason? Because they aren't kept busy at the desk?

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Post by hinkley »

bityard wrote: post #145
hinkley wrote: post #84

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I’ve worked at a couple places where someone had the balls to just get up and leave the meeting room at around 70-80 minutes to force a break. If we are going to be stuck in here I’m going to the bathroom and to get more coffee. Usually by this point the stuffy room and long meeting have people going in circles. Getting up, opening the door, getting the blood moving while one or two groups have a little sidebar, usua…

I do this at 60 minutes, even though my meetings are all over zoom these days. "Sorry, I need to step away to get some water. I'll be back in a few minutes."

I just lose track of time like everyone else has. I will follow that person out the door though because they’re right, and once 2 people go the rest will follow. One person is just an asshole. Two is a pattern and three is a movement.

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Post by RHSeeger »

chairmansteve wrote: post #370
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #255

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> generally to make sure everyone is on the same page If everyone is on the same page then there should be a 'page' resulting from the meeting; something to look back at to represent what everyone agreed on. Those are the 'decisions' being made. The worst meetings are ones where people share ideas, nod their head in agreement, then write nothing down. Inevitably this leads to an identical meeting later down the road,…

"The worst meetings are ones where people share ideas, nod their head in agreement, then write nothing down". In companies where presenteeism is valued, this can be a welcome break from pretending to work.

I love meetings that are get togethers to share ideas. Certainly not enough to impact other timelines; but getting together with a broader team of people to discuss what everyone has been dealing with is very valuable. Sometimes you wind up with an action task (like to create documentation on something that multiple people have had issues with), but oftentimes you don't.

I like to say that part of becoming a good software developer is experience. And hearing about other people's experiences helps with that; experience by proxy. It's also why I read (and write) blog posts where people working through issues. Because seeing how the person found, analyzed, and solved the issue can make _me_ a better developer.

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Post by bumby »

shakna wrote: post #373
bumby wrote: post #362

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> If the professor is delayed due to a tire puncture, should they lose their tenure? This seems like a false equivalency. The student isn’t getting dropped from their degree program, they’re missing a class. If a professor is late, especially habitually late, I may not advocate for them losing tenure, but I’d certainly expect it to have a smaller impact like being brought up in a performance review.

They're missing a class, yes. A class that they have paid to access. A class that the professor would not be teaching, if they did not believe it essential to the degree program. They are being denied access to something both important, and already paid for.

“Already paid for” does not imply you get to have it on your terms, however and whenever you want it. As an earlier comment alludes to, this is part of the problem of treating students as “customers”.

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Post by bumby »

mfru wrote: post #316
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #307

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This is completely out of line. Calm down before commenting. Strong disagreement is fine but this style of communication repels discussion.

And here is the notable lack of empathy HN displays on a daily basis. You don't need to tone police people to get their point. Just read what they are saying instead of rejecting their opinion because you are uncomfortable when someone displays a strong emotion.

Yet there are clear HN guidelines that were should try to police in the effort to foster curious conversation.

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

hammock wrote: post #355
jedberg wrote: post #305

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> And an enforceable sign could never be a weird number because speedos don’t have ticks but every 5mph. Disneyland famously has a 14mph speed limit for their property. They do this both to get your attention, and because the tram moves at 14mph (because 15mph requires seatbelts).

Not a legally enforceable speed limit.

Private property though so they could eject you right?
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