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Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by mschuster91 »

Ragnarork wrote: post #180
goodcanadian wrote: post #160

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I grew up on a farm. Farmers as a class are not stupid, at least no more so than any other group of people I've dealt with. They do have different interests and priorities than city dwelling people which tend to be better represented by traditionally conservative parties, but that is not an absolute. In Canada, historically, farmers were also responsible for the social credit movement ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Thank you for saying that. I see this divide all the time, and I can't bear seeing this used time and time again to make the rural vs. the urban populations angry at each other, which in the end only detracts from trying to see how to make everything work together. I wish we'd be smarter and stopped just being condescending towards the other group. The only ones actively benefitting from this divide are not well-inte…

> I see this divide all the time, and I can't bear seeing this used time and time again to make the rural vs. the urban populations angry at each other, which in the end only detracts from trying to see how to make everything work together.

Personally, I'd love to see more investment into rural and semi-rural areas to stop rural flight (because letting run that one unchecked is the cause for the housing prices in urban areas skyrocketing).

The problem is, it's getting increasingly hard to justify spending money on these areas morally. In Germany, even over ten years ago when I worked in construction primarily in rural areas, outright nazism (like entering a bar and witnessing the bar shout the heil-salute including raising the arm) was already a thing, listening to the "Stammtisch" idiocy outright painful, and today it's even worse because this kind of opinion isn't just utter fringe any more, it's gotten political mainstream.

When we're deciding to send money to rural areas, we're effectively rewarding "going fascist". Just behave deranged enough and you'll get everyone bending over.

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by fransje26 »

thyristan wrote: post #295
niemandhier wrote: post #246

So what is an European alternative to hacker news ?

For Germany, Heise online maybe, www.heise.de But that would be a very big "maybe", because it is very different in all aspects.

If you can understand German, that is.

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Post by tored »

fransje26 wrote: post #360
tored wrote: post #322

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No, Europe is a de facto vassal state to US since WW2. What Europe didn’t understand or didn’t want to understand was the US agenda differs from Europe agenda , always has. But now they start to wake up facing this reality.

> What Europe didn’t understand or didn’t want to understand was the US agenda differs from Europe agenda , always has. France would disagree with the "didn't understand" part. They have been continuously ridiculed for holding that view, until very, very recently.

Agree, France is somewhat of an exception.

I remember during the Chirac presidency how viciously France was attacked by the other European countries, especially my own Sweden, for doing nuclear weapons testing in the South Pacific.

Jump forward today and France is seen as a protector of Europe, especially in Sweden, because of its nuclear arsenal.

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Post by ttyprintk »

_zamorano_ wrote: post #300
MrJohz wrote: post #278

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Can you give some examples of this attitude? I'm not sure I've seen that behaviour anywhere, and it's very difficult to look up examples when your description is so vague.

With Nord Stream, the elites tried to gaslight their population using the media into believeng an stupid made-up story about how Russia blowed up their own pipe. Very convenient for the US, not so for the EU

Only if it were Russia can Trump stay quiet about Nord Stream, which he has.

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Post by eriklaco »

olieidel wrote: post #327

Help me understand this: European companies have already been interested in choosing for European alternatives instead of AWS, Azure, etc. for years . Sure, this interest has recently gone up significantly, but it already was there, especially in the area I've been working in (hospitals / medical devices). But here's what I can't wrap my head around: Why do the European alternatives suck so much? - Pretty much all cl…

We’re building seenode, a European alternative to Render and Fly.io. When you’re fundraising, you’re always compared to global competitors, not just European ones. Which usually have better access to capital, they get to the traction and revenues faster as there is one big market with huge purchase power.

I’ve spoken with other DevTools founders, and many of them see 60–80% of their revenue coming from the US. When you’re building a PLG model targeting software developers, you really have to think globally from day one.

Even though demand for EU-based server providers has increased recently. It wasn’t always like that.

Being EU based and trying to target only EU customers is more complicated, from fundraising to customer acquisition, especially when you factor in language localization and legal bureaucracy. It’s even harder if you’re building a B2C startup where regional differences are more pronounced.

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Post by nodoll »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #284
tossandthrow wrote: post #215

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Last time Nato's article 5 was invoked it lead to Europeans dying in US wars. We need to go back to WW2 for you comment to have any value. I think Americans can thank themselves and nobody else for their people dying in wars.

>Last time Nato's article 5 was invoked it lead to Europeans dying in US wars. US service members represented about 68% of the coalition deaths in Afghanistan and about 93% in Iraq: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghan... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Coa... The expectation for a European war should be similar. Europe should supply about 80% of the effort, since they…

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Post by afpx »

dinga wrote: post #51

It is not only about a US-boycott for me, but also about an increase in consciousness about how our choices _do_ have influence. It _does_ matter, which products I buy and I use. I hope this gains more momentum!

I'm looking forward to some awesome products coming out of the EU. Could you guys start with a really good, privacy preserving search engine?

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Post by spacechild1 »

Kbelicius wrote: post #140
dsign wrote: post #90

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No, across history and geography people are caught doing "unexplainable" things--and I use this word because I don't want to sound offensive--time and again. Here are a few examples: - The expulsion of the English from Havana in the 18th century - The European inquisitions, and while we are at it, some elements of faith in general. - Hitler's fascism (Hitler was elected) - Fidel Castro's Cuba - North Korea - Italy's…

> Hitler's fascism (Hitler was elected) He wasn't elected. By the time he became chancellor his party was losing ground and couldn't form the government. Under pressure of the rich Hitler was appointed chancellor (not elected) because communists/socialists/unionists were bad for business and they were gaining ground.

It's true that the NSDA lost 4% between the July and November 1932 elections, but they were still the strongest party by a clear margin. Hitler was appointed chancellor under a minority government because he could not find a coalition with a majority in the Reichstag. In this sense, he was indeed "elected". You are right in the sense that other parties provided the necessary 2/3 majority to pass the Enabling Act of March 14, 1933 which eventually gave him absolute power.

Side note: in a way Trump has it much easier because he can already govern with executive orders without requiring a 2/3 majority from the Congress...

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Post by sfn42 »

watwut wrote: post #315
sfn42 wrote: post #281

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It's two extremes. As with most things it's a spectrum, too far to either side isn't great. On the one hand you have racists and bigots, on the other you have people insisting that we should be asking everyone their preferred pronouns before addressing them and men who decide that they are now women should be allowed to compete in women's sports leagues, oh and actually gender is just a social construct because some…

Why is TERF as a term bad when it actually matches the ideology? You have to be against trans and otherwise feminist. Which is exactly what that is.

I dont know, I've just seen it used in a seemingly derogatory way. I don't know what it means and I don't care. Nobody in my real life uses that term anyway, it's just weirdos on Twitter and such.

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Post by flanked-evergl »

fransje26 wrote: post #370
flanked-evergl wrote: post #339

As a European, I would like nothing more than for our ruling elites to stop acting like petulant teenagers that are upset that their parents voted Republican and instead move out and start supporting themselves. For decades here in Norway we have had talks about how we need to denuclearize, stop all industry, stop all energy production, stop all mining. This, if not directly a result of Russian interference, is at le…

> that Europe jails people for thought crime at a much higher rate than US or even Russia > Right now, my data is more private in US than in most of Europe. Could follow the train of thought until it catastrophically derailed in the last three sentences..

Both facts. EU is pushing for an end-to-end to end encryption and there is no freedom of expression in Europe. Norway tried to jail a lesbian for believing that men can't become women. You may disagree with her, but it's ridiculous that she should be in jail for her view. Scotland makes it illegal to pray silently in your own home in some cases. UK already makes it illegal to pray silently in your own head. How much more draconian can you get?
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