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Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

I'm forced to use Apple and Microsoft products at work regularly. They're all so much worse than desktop Linux that it's not even funny.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean ok, the old one was already a bit overloaded and unwieldy, so a redesign was probably overdue and Ill give them the benefit of the doubt here but WTF is with the 1-2 second delay when switching between the menus in there? Are they doing web requests upon opening every settings page or what? This is real amateur hour.

They appear to be launching each settings screen as a separate app and retaining it until Settings is quit. How many resources this requires, or how much this contributes to the lag, I don't know, but... Open Activity Monitor, and type in System Settings into the search. Then open the Settings app and press the down arrow key through all of the menus. You'll notice that each one of them appears as their own line item…

Yea some other commenter mentioned that they most likely re-wrote the whole thing Swift.

So is Swift just too crappy for this kind of UI, that accesses low level system stuff? or are the devs just incompetent? Who knows…

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Title should be something like “Apple Pencil Pro causes iPad to overheat and slow down”. This sounds really annoying, but the overly broad title is just clickbait.

In my experience, this bug - lags and overheating when drawing with the Apple Pencil - exists since iPadOS 16. When searching for it on the web, I found lots of reports and no indication that it is solved, including by hardware replacements.

In any case, HN's guidelines ask to use the original title of an article, unless it is misleading or linkbait. I'd agree that Apple's software quality has been going down.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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When i type on iMessages, any time the message gets longer than ~8 sentences, ie... a mildly long message, it starts to lag extremely bad, where 1 keystroke has like a 250ms delay. it gets worse the more characters get added on ive tried every single fix i can find, from turning off AI to predictive text. nothing fixes it. so many other people have this issue... it is absolutely insane a messaging app cannot message

I’ve had this occasionally but luckily it hasn’t persistently. Also annoyingly, I don’t consistently get messages on my Mac. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t, with no way of knowing what I’m missing without looking at my phone.

iMessage gets synced automatically, but SMS needs to be enabled explicitly on the phone for it to forward them to your Mac.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

#375

It's not just Apple guys, it's everywhere. Software quality has seriously declined across the board, from Spotify to Slack to core operating systems like Windows and macOS. I think a major factor is corporate culture, which largely ignores software quality. Another issue is that many engineers lack a solid understanding of CS fundamentals like performance, security, and reliability (perhaps this is why many are not a…

Honestly, I don't think it's a culture thing or a CS fundamentals thing. I think it's the fact that software is 100x, or maybe even 1,000x, more complex that it was just 25 years ago. Apps are built on so many libraries and frameworks and packages that an average application will have 100x the amount of code. And they're all necessary . A typical phone app is 200 MB, when Word 4.0 was less than 1 MB. But it's not jus…

MacOS had more screen sizes to target in 2011 than the iPad does today; in any case, Apple has always tolerated having iPad apps that are blown-up phone apps. Mouse support for iPad apps has existed as an accessibility feature before it was deemed a core feature. Even that isn't any kind of technological leap, mouse support has been part of Android for at least 15 years now.

None of these really explain the sloppiness and unfocused nature of Apple software, which has been best-in-class until recently.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

As someone who works on both I don't notice a difference. Mac sucks just as much as Windows (or visa versa). There's things each does better and things each does worse.

Once people start saying "forced to use [...] for work" you've got to analyse platforms from a different angle.

Namely: How good is this platform after Corporate IT cheaps out on hardware, and loads as much 'security' crapware as possible?

On Windows, there are incredibly cheap laptops available, and corporate IT has loads of crapware like antivirus and crowdstrike and profiles and enterprise endpoint management to slow it down.

On Mac, there aren't any cheap hardware options, and there's a medium amount of "security" crapware.

On Linux, corporate IT let you manage it yourself, because they don't know how to. They can't develop the skills either, because anyone who can manage Linux gets promoted out the set-up-new-users-laptops department.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

#377

As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

I know the feeling. I'm forced to use a Mac laptop for work, and it's really made me appreciate Linux.

? How is this possible? I have zero issues on my Macbook, while Linux is consistently a PITA for me.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

#378

When you upgrade MacOS 15.3.0 apple automatically enables Apple intelligence and then turns on Apple intelligence reporting (15 min intervals) by default. You are not prompted or asked to enable. After disabling Apple Intelligence when you do the next mini update to 15.3.1 Apple intelligence is enabled. Again no prompt and your previous choice to disable is ignored. This IMO is a bad sign for Apple software quality.…

This was also the case for iOS 18.3.0 and 18.3.1.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, and many others in our personal capacity, have been shouting from hn-rooftops how Apple’s software capacity has been in a state of, since a decade or so (or more really) that calling it bad would be an understatement. It’s downright pathetic. It’s disgustingly incompetent. And I haven’t not even started on its services like iCloud. Because those go beyond pathetic. I mean for god’s sake these morons (yes, “morons”…

Now tell us how you feel about windows.

Your whataboutery could have been literal but shame you turned it into howaboutery. Close.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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post #371

As someone forced to use a Windows laptop for work with the new job, I've stopped complaining about my Mac. It's so much worse on the other side of the fence... Working on Windows makes me appreciate the Mac ecosystem so, so, so very much.

I'm forced to use Apple and Microsoft products at work regularly. They're all so much worse than desktop Linux that it's not even funny.

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