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Post by croes »

glimshe wrote: post #357
croes wrote: post #211

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Musk promises revolution and sells evolution. Promises FSD, sells EVs. Promises Mars colony, sells self landing rockets and sattelite internet. Promises faster tunnel boring, sells smaller tunnel boring machine that drills smaller tunnels. Promises less corruption and bureaucracy, just fires people.

Overpromising and underdelivering are the cornerstones of advertising/marketing/sales. "Use this deodorant and a gorgeous woman will want you". Do you know why people do it? Because it works.

That's great for a startup, but bad for nuclear weapons and financial data.

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Post by btreecat »

chrisco255 wrote: post #245
FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #157

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Hi Franz, it's 2025. We beat the Nazis 80 years ago. It's time to move on to the 21st century.

> Hi Franz, it's 2025. We beat the Nazis 80 years ago. It's time to move on to the 21st century.

Then why the hell are they still waving flags?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna191304

Your bias is showing.

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Post by btreecat »

chrisco255 wrote: post #256
ncallaway wrote: post #122

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Fixing the deficit is the opposite of looting, actually.

> Fixing the deficit is the opposite of looting, actually.

What evidence is there that the current moves will lead to "fixing the deficit?"

Illegally redistributing of appropriated spending could be easily understood as looting in most context. Not sure how this would be excluded.

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Post by psytrancefan »

lionkor wrote: post #144

I don't understand how and why Grok would be related to "understanding the nature of the universe", as Musk puts it. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but they basically just burned more cash than any human should have to buy Nvidia GPUs and make them predict natural language, right? So, they are somewhat on-par with all the other companies that did the same. This is not innovation, this is baseless hype over a mediocr…

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Post by Mekoloto »

chrisco255 wrote: post #242
agubelu wrote: post #143

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Because he owns companies that contract with the government and are affected by its policies. It's the very definition of a conflict of interest. And he's not even "auditing" the government. When you're auditing, you emit a report that the audited party later analyzes and acts upon. He's been given freeway to fire government workers as he pleases as if he's an elected officer, which he's not.

Washington has been known for revolving doors among particular industries for quite a few decades! Why the hoopla over this one? They are auditing as part of their process of cutting costs. They're literally tracing trillions of dollars in financial records. He's doing everything he's doing by executive order of the President of the United States, who was elected.

Lets just then let it slide?

Thats not how it works.

Btw. i think having the richest man in the world in his current position is very very unique.

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Post by TMWNN »

qingcharles wrote: post #59
rendang wrote: post #10

Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

I've spent the last hour testing it and I'm blown away. And this is coming from a very hardcore user of OpenAI/Claude products on a daily basis. It passed every goofy test I have for writing articles which involves trying to surface arcane obscure details. (it certainly means however they are scraping the Web they are doing a good job here) It made the database code I wrote over the last week with o3/o1/GPT4o/Claude3…

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Post by Mekoloto »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #353
Mekoloto wrote: post #348

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Look who builds it. Its not Musk. Its his money who bought smart people. If he does to the USA Gov what he did to Twitter, he will destroy the brand, reduce the workforce by 80% and reduce the value by 80% too. The issue with him is, tha tin Twitter, the affected people had money. A missed payment of USA can literaly kill people.

Do you believe that Elon regrets acquiring Twitter? Despite being constantly told how much we was fucking up, it seems to have worked out OK for him.

Im pretty sure he doesn't like that he is not able to make it more successful but i don't believe he regrets it.

He would have regretted it if it wouldn't have played out (and this game he is currently playing, is not finished yet) like it currently does. He said in an interview that he puts everything on one card now.

Edit: Also he gets a lot of valuation due to him being a cult or whatever. From companies surviving the AI phase we are in right now, if he can't get the nazi people on his side to buy his stuff, he is a very high risk.

He destroyed twitters brand and bluesky emerged. He destroys Tesla and other car makers making ground. SpaceX needs a lot of subsidies and his goal for mars is only a cult topic not a financial success topic.

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Post by Mekoloto »

TMWNN wrote: post #376
qingcharles wrote: post #59

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I've spent the last hour testing it and I'm blown away. And this is coming from a very hardcore user of OpenAI/Claude products on a daily basis. It passed every goofy test I have for writing articles which involves trying to surface arcane obscure details. (it certainly means however they are scraping the Web they are doing a good job here) It made the database code I wrote over the last week with o3/o1/GPT4o/Claude3…

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Thats not how musk looks like at all :D

And lets see if Musk is pushing too many people too far. Everything he currently does can blow up in his face very fast

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Post by jeswin »

riffraff wrote: post #72
rendang wrote: post #43

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Apparently it isn't clear to the investors valuing OpenAI at >300B. Possibly they're betting that the ecosystem & integrations around their models will generate a certain amount of lock-in or otherwise make the difference in a close-to-even field

Investors thought someone renting office space was going to revolutionize the world and valued their company 50B.

I don't think it's automatically a bad idea. Offices require a lot of support, networking, security, maintenance, certifications etc. There are efficiency gains in scaling. In addition, Wework is useful for companies which hire employees in different cities.

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Post by Mekoloto »

croes wrote: post #170
rendang wrote: post #10

Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

Who cares about benchmarks? These things still cost me time because of hallucinations.

It doesn't matter if it costs time.

It matters if it is better than what you have.

If it breaks a cup but is 10x cheaper than a human, go figer

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