That's incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped everyone get out of the upside, burning plane.
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#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Look up stress to failure tests on commercial airplanes. They know how much peak load is supposed to be for the airframe, then they go well beyond it to see how the plane fails. Generally you want the wings to break not the fuselage. You can in a lot of situations land a plane with 1.5 wings. But once the spine cracks you’re just a ballistic object.
The parts are designed for "ultimate load" which is 150% of the worst case maximum load expected to ever see in service. I used to work at Boeing on the 757 stabilizer trim system. There's the design group and the stress group. I was in the design group, the stress group double checks the design work. One day the stress group called me on the carpet, and asked me why my designs consistently just barely exceeded 150%.…
Thanks for making the D programming language. If it did not insist on a GC and had a robust and stable GC-free stdlib, I believe it could have conquered the world.
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#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too bad the airport couldn't find the funds to put a dash cam in the tower. Grump grump grump.
For anyone unaware, Walter worked for Boeing for years and probably knows more about planes than anyone on the forum. It's likely not a morbid curiosity here, especially since noone died AFAIK, but genuine technical curiosity so he can see what happened, and perhaps educate us readers.
Back in my 757 days Boeing ran individual wires for everything. I suggested using a bus to save weight and improve reliability. I just got blank looks in response. Modern cars use a bus now, and probably the airliners do, but I have no direct knowledge of it.
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#374too many aircraft accidents these days what's the root cause
Its only commercial airline crashes in the USA that are vanishingly rare. Once you expand scope to all types of planses or the world as a whole you get a lot more.
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could be read as calling people here rubberneckers, which is not exactly a compliment
The interest doesn’t come from wanting to see random destruction like rubberneckers do. Commercial passenger aviation is as safe as it gets and incidents require multiple things to go wrong. An aviation disaster is a fascinating thing because it pushes forward safety protocols or engineering safeguards. There is nothing interesting about a car that smashes into a guardrail, which is what rubberneckers are into.
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#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too bad the airport couldn't find the funds to put a dash cam in the tower. Grump grump grump.
For anyone unaware, Walter worked for Boeing for years and probably knows more about planes than anyone on the forum. It's likely not a morbid curiosity here, especially since noone died AFAIK, but genuine technical curiosity so he can see what happened, and perhaps educate us readers.
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#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
For anyone unaware, Walter worked for Boeing for years and probably knows more about planes than anyone on the forum. It's likely not a morbid curiosity here, especially since noone died AFAIK, but genuine technical curiosity so he can see what happened, and perhaps educate us readers.
I don't suggest it is any sort of conspiracy, it seems more in line with the generally ancient technology in the air traffic control system, and COBOL for the government accounting systems. Back in my 757 days Boeing ran individual wires for everything. I suggested using a bus to save weight and improve reliability. I just got blank looks in response. Modern cars use a bus now, and probably the airliners do, but I ha…
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#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, the Aeroflot Sukhoi crash a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgWSwbXMehI
Or last year's crash in Japan when an airliner hit a coast guard plane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7IEaHTlaTU
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#379It's wild to me that this is at the top of Hacker News, but not even on the Google News front page. I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.
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#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How do you know there aren’t any? Have you ever seen one?
Sure, the Aeroflot Sukhoi crash a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgWSwbXMehI