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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by Ekaros »

maxwindiff wrote: post #309
brabel wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The idea that China is a major security threat is basically brand new. And as far as I can see, that idea comes from China simply having grown its economy to a size comparable to that of the USA, nothing else? But everyone during the Chinese miracle growth (from 1980's to today) expected China would've become the largest economy in the world by the 2020's. I guess people just didn't really take that seriously until…

We hoped China would grow into a Korea or Japan, instead we got ourselves a Russia.

So in essence a colony or puppet state? Thankfully China avoided that. And is not controlled by others like Soviet satellites were.

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Post by taurknaut »

bloomingeek wrote: post #145
999900000999 wrote: post #29

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Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

"This country is so painfully stupid." Not all of the country is stupid, a lot of us didn't vote for the idiot who is causing all this lunacy. Unfortunately, not enough of us.

hah, I would say that blaming voters is the best example of american stupidity I can think of. What do you expect when you have two parties that agree on virtually everything but abortion? Blaming the voters just enables this dynamic. At some point people need to get pissed off that we haven't had policy worth voting FOR since well before I was born, just an endless cycle of people explaining why nothing will ever improve and all our problems are intractable.

Trump is easy to laugh at, but he genuinely understands this country and how democracy functions on a level most people in DC and in newsrooms across the country completely fail to grasp. Why people aren't more pissed with the democrats for pushing unpopular losers is baffling.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

throwaway290 wrote: post #265
School-Cotton wrote: post #216

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Why would China not count as a developing country?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3921082-house-unanimously... > “Their economy size is second only to that of the United States. [The] United States is treated as a developed country, so should PRC,” Kim said. “And is also treated as a high-income country in treaties and international organizations, so China should also be treated as a developed country.” And CCP also usually paints PRC superior to US in everything…

The US is treated as a high-income country because incomes are high. Incomes in China are low. There's nobody disputing either of those claims.

USA NGDP per capita 2024: US$86,600, just below Norway.

China NGDP per capita 2024: US$13,000, just below Malaysia.

Their economy is large because there are more of them. That doesn't do anything for their income.

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Post by meigwilym »

Veliladon wrote: post #149
dtquad wrote: post #120

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>I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages from China As a software engineer who works closely with electrical and firmware engineers I know what you are saying is completely true. The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves h…

Because there's nowhere in the US like Shenzhen, Guangdong or Hong Kong. Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You need all the ancillary industries around the production to be there, along with being competitive and commoditized as well. When a supplier has something go wrong a line of manufacturing doesn't go down. You go down the street to the same guy sel…

> If the SMT components are manufactured domestically say for military purposes it's going to be spread out all over the US because politicians pork barrel contracts for their districts and states.

Or possibly politicians attracting investment to their districts for the benefit their voters. What's the alternative here, a centrally planned economy?

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Post by catherd »

nottorp wrote: post #368
catherd wrote: post #307

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Only if "utterly fucked" somehow means you can still pay a bit more to DHL and get packages even faster than USPS. Your fast prototypes coming by air freight likely aren't routed through USPS at all unless it's the last leg of a consolidated shipment that's broken apart once it reaches the US. Those would be using some other carrier to get them from China to the US and then USPS only inside the US. USPS all the way f…

> Paying ~$30 for express shipping through DHL (plus whatever the new tariffs end up being) will still get you those parts in 3-5 days to most major shipping hubs in the US, your suppliers will just need to start filing the export paperwork correctly. In my european experience, DHL is anything but fast when customs are involved. And I doubt they have the manpower to handle it for the new US rules. > These changes wil…

DHL B2C shipments to the EU are generally held in customs until the duty is paid, which makes it slow but ensures DHL isn't left holding the bag when people decide they don't want to pay unexpected import duties.

That's (historically) not the case for US B2B shipments. For those, DHL pays the duty as the shipment goes through customs and then sends an invoice after the parcel is delivered.

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Post by dwaite »

tkems wrote: post #10

I can confirm that Aliexpress doesn't allow me to checkout with a USA address and states that items can't be shipped to my region. -edit: Since this post it seems that I can order items again? Very odd.

Depends quite a bit on the item. Some items are actually shipped domestically, for instance, and can be sold out within the country.

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Post by bunnie »

anonylizard wrote: post #147
JohnBooty wrote: post #122

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Can you ship via non-USPS couriers? FedEx, etc?

Indeed you can. This only affects the heavily subsidized usps shipping process. If your r&d cannot afford fedex you shouldn’t be doing r&d. For all the supposed panic and importance of this process, the poster didn’t do even a google search of this issue

"let them eat cake"

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #303
khelavastr wrote: post #187

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Surely they can use DHL/UPS, right?

Should be minimal disruption; when someone in China wanted to send me a package, they used DHL anyway.

This is $$$$ compared to China Post Epackets.

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Post by geenkeuse »

maxwindiff wrote: post #309
brabel wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The idea that China is a major security threat is basically brand new. And as far as I can see, that idea comes from China simply having grown its economy to a size comparable to that of the USA, nothing else? But everyone during the Chinese miracle growth (from 1980's to today) expected China would've become the largest economy in the world by the 2020's. I guess people just didn't really take that seriously until…

We hoped China would grow into a Korea or Japan, instead we got ourselves a Russia.

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