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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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That’s wishful thinking… One can’t simply stop using USD for trade on a whim. Decoupling will take at least a decade if not longer.

Europe manages to use the Euro just fine.

About half of their extra EU trade is in USD, about half in Euro.

Losing half of their import market and half of their export market would be the worst financial calamity they’ve ever faced.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/d...

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> Data is the ultimate Fact Check. This is wrong IMO. Data can be missing, incomplete, biased, skewed, and even just plain wrong. Cherry-picked data can be worse than no data. The ultimate fact check is a scientific process of collecting data, modeling it, scrutinizing it and its methodology and the entities involved, contextualizing it, cross-checking, replicating, etc. What media likes to call "fact checking" to me…

Fact checking is things like Republicans claiming that people in a certain town are eating cats and dogs or their are pedophiles in the basement of a certain pizza place. There isn't any need to model and scrutinize data to fact check the majority of nonsense Republicans spout.

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Fact checking is things like Republicans claiming that people in a certain town are eating cats and dogs or their are pedophiles in the basement of a certain pizza place. There isn't any need to model and scrutinize data to fact check the majority of nonsense Republicans spout.

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It's a big claim that "immigrants are eating the cats and dogs in specific town in Ohio" (note the plural).

What was readily checked is the source of such a claim (where did Trump get that from?) and what evidence was provided?

The trace back on that stupidity was unsubstantiated rumours triggered from a walked back local area posting and a slew of images that didn't come from the place in question, etc.

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Having two parties with opposing biases and incentives doesn’t magically cancel out and become impartial. That’s the opposite of impartiality.

Although true, it isn't a very useful observation. "How do I find someone impartial to this matter?" is one of the great unsolved questions that the lawyers have to deal with. Up there with "what is true?". If anything that is one of the big promises of AI systems. Maybe we can have adjudication that is both extremely intelligent and provably biased towards consistency, facts and evidence. SHA256sum-ed and torrented…

As you will see if you ask DeepSeek about notable events which happened in Tiananmen Square, AI systems are perfectly capable of failing to provide impartiality or facts. Any model that claims to do so simply is failing to state the biases of the person who trained it, and the biases of the data upon which it was trained.

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This is not how HN works. There are guidelines and if you fail them you get downvoted or flagged. The moderation is mostly decentralized.

By the way:

> Don't be snarky.

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

So while it seems that I am ideologically much more aligned with you, I am still annoyed by the unecessary irony and uninteresting comment about whatever you think HN is/has become.

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The scope of the scrubbing is broader that datasets. On /r/medicine they're reporting that some treatments guidelines for physicians (100 page+ PDF's) are disappearing, if they're adjacent to the topic of sex: https://old.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1iepzln/cdc_has_r... ( "CDC has removed the pages with STI treatment and contraceptive guidelines (self.medicine)" )

The CDC page on PrEP, a life-saving medicine to protect against HIV, has been removed. This will result in people dying. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prevention/prep.html

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America voted for cons, crooks and thugs. And is getting conned, crooked and thugged. Entirely predictable. And well deserved. I say this as someone living and suffering in America. There is no one else to blame but ourselves. The future is bleak.

And they're gonna learn it good and hard.

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Fact checking is things like Republicans claiming that people in a certain town are eating cats and dogs or their are pedophiles in the basement of a certain pizza place. There isn't any need to model and scrutinize data to fact check the majority of nonsense Republicans spout.

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Generally speaking, the responsibility of proof falls on party making the claim.

If I claim that you beat your wife, you are not expected to prove your innocence by showing that you don't do it. Proving a negative is difficult if not impossible in some cases. I have to show evidence to back up my claim.

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